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2000pts Lothern themed list
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:40 pm
by turtlarn
Hi everyone!
I used to play WHFB way back when, but quit once AoS hit us. With Old World coming up I decided to take a look again at 8th edition. Partly to start looking at ideas I could pursue if Old World plays out well, or if it doesn't just to get going on an 8th edition list.
I used to play the outcast cousins (Dark Elves), but now I lean heavily to trying out a Lothern themed list. I love modelling and painting and I feel like that theme could be great! With this said I scribbled down a 2000pts list I think would be fun to build. I have no clue if the list is competitively viable, but do you think it could hold up in friendly games at least?
Lords
Archmage: 275pts
- Level 4
- Book of Hoeth
Heroes
Lothern Sea helm: 229pts
- Skycutter
- Star lance
- Bow
Mage: 145pts
- Level 2
- Dispel scroll
Core
19x Lothern sea guard: 258pts
- Shields
- Full command
19x Lothern sea guard: 258pts
- Shields
- Full command
5x Ellyrian Reavers: 95pts
- Spears + bows
5x Ellyrian Reavers: 95pts
- Spears + bows
Special
Lothern Skycutter: 120pts
- Eagle eye bolt thrower
Lothern Skycutter: 120pts
- Eagle eye bolt thrower
Rare
Eagle claw Bolt thrower: 70pts
Eagle claw Bolt thrower: 70pts
Eagle claw Bolt thrower: 70pts
3x Great eagles: 195pts
- Swifsense
- Shredding talons
Any thoughts or pointers?
Re: 2000pts Lothern themed list
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 8:22 pm
by Giladis
What Lores of Magic do you plan to use?
I would also advise splitting three great eagles into two individuals if you have 5 points to space. It should provide more tactical opportunities. Either way this is one nasty gunline
Re: 2000pts Lothern themed list
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 12:20 pm
by turtlarn
Thanks for the reply! I honestly hadn't given lores much thought before, but I got the advice on reddit to use either shadow or death for lowering opponent toughness which seems like a really clever move hoenstly. I'm just thinking about how I would motivate it theme-wise
I also got the advice to beef up the infantry units a bit, so I'm looking into possibilities to do that as well, maybe to 5x5 units.
Re: 2000pts Lothern themed list
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:28 pm
by TyrrenAzureblade
Looks fun for a casual game for sure! I'd combine the two Sea Guard units into one bigger unit, save some points by having just one command group. Remove the upgrades from the Eagles and pare it down to just two. I'd also either make the Sea Helm a Battle Standard Bearer, or free up enough points for one, and embed them in the Sea Guard so you can utilize the Naval Discipline rule, which isn't crazy good, but if you're going thematic, it's a fun one to have. Give them the Shield of the Merwyrm (very thematic, and also great for a close combat character) and the Sword of Might (+1 S). Definitely give your Archmage some kind of Ward Save talisman. Lose one of the bolt throwers, the second mage, and with the points you saved from taking the Sea Helm on foot add a unit of elites for some punch. You can make a unit of Swordmasters to serve as the Archmage's retinue and bodyguard unit for fluffy theme reasons. Or take two units of 9, arrayed 3x3 for very maneuverable small units to support your big fights with the Sea Guard by charging them in the flanks/rear.
Re: 2000pts Lothern themed list
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 6:12 pm
by Morgen
Your army reminds me of this so very, very much. I love it.
Re: 2000pts Lothern themed list
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:24 pm
by SpellArcher
Morgen wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 6:12 pm
Your army reminds me of this so very, very much.
Didn't that come through Aicanor, back in the day?
Re: 2000pts Lothern themed list
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:23 pm
by Morgen
Maybe! I found it on reddit.
Re: 2000pts Lothern themed list
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 1:51 pm
by Prince of Spires
SpellArcher wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:24 pm
Morgen wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 6:12 pm
Your army reminds me of this so very, very much.
Didn't that come through Aicanor, back in the day?
It is indeed one from Aicanor. It's flowing around the forum here somewhere as well... It's a great cartoon
It's an interesting list for sure. I feel there will be armies that can do very little against this list and there will armies that will beat it into the ground without too much trouble. So it depends on what you're expecting to face. I agree with the other comments that the eagles don't need the upgrades. Their default role in the army is to stand in front of stuff heroically and die while giving you control of the battlefield.
Re: 2000pts Lothern themed list
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:51 am
by MikeAndreas1
turtlarn wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:40 pm
Hi everyone!
I used to play WHFB way back when, but quit once AoS hit us. With Old World coming up I decided to take a look again at 8th edition. Partly to start looking at ideas I could pursue if Old World plays out well, or if it doesn't just to get going on an 8th edition list.
I used to play the outcast cousins (Dark Elves), but now I lean heavily to trying out a Lothern themed list. I love modelling and painting and I feel like that theme could be great! With this said I scribbled down a 2000pts list I think would be fun to build. I have no clue if the list is competitively viable, but do you think it could hold up in friendly games at least?
Lords
Archmage: 275pts
- Level 4
- Book of Hoeth
Heroes
Lothern Sea helm: 229pts
- Skycutter
- Star lance
- Bow
Mage: 145pts
- Level 2
- Dispel scroll
Core
19x Lothern sea guard: 258pts
- Shields
- Full command
19x Lothern sea guard: 258pts
- Shields
- Full command
5x Ellyrian Reavers: 95pts
- Spears + bows
5x Ellyrian Reavers: 95pts
- Spears + bows
Special
Lothern Skycutter: 120pts
- Eagle eye bolt thrower
Lothern Skycutter: 120pts
- Eagle eye bolt thrower
Rare
Eagle claw Bolt thrower: 70pts
Eagle claw Bolt thrower: 70pts
Eagle claw Bolt thrower: 70pts
3x Great eagles: 195pts
- Swifsense
- Shredding talons
Any thoughts or pointers?
Your enthusiasm for modeling and painting the Lothern theme sounds fantastic! What inspired you to choose Lothern over other factions for your return to Warhammer Fantasy Battles?