HE Tournament Results

[Mendaciun]

The 2/16 is me! Looks normal since it's probably a list I posted about before but the SkyCutter bolt thrower change was to deal with the increase in giant chaos spawn I expected to see. Bolt throwers ended up being meh as expected, but mostly because of 5s to hit after moving and range. My single loss was by 100 points against an exiles double baron vanguard peg knights list with green knight and 2 bombards, a very difficult list to play into.

Sisters were great as normal. SkyCutters did fine. Best thing bolt thrower did was one shot a gyrocoptor but nothing much to write home about beyond that. Already looking to drop the two bolt throwers from the list so the SkyCutters can march more and be chaff and have the silver helms be a combat res bus.

[Axiem]

The 2/16 is me! Looks normal since it's probably a list I posted about before but the SkyCutter bolt thrower change was to deal with the increase in giant chaos spawn I expected to see. Bolt throwers ended up being meh as expected, but mostly because of 5s to hit after moving and range. My single loss was by 100 points against an exiles double baron vanguard peg knights list with green knight and 2 bombards, a very difficult list to play into.

Sisters were great as normal. SkyCutters did fine. Best thing bolt thrower did was one shot a gyrocoptor but nothing much to write home about beyond that. Already looking to drop the two bolt throwers from the list so the SkyCutters can march more and be chaff and have the silver helms be a combat res bus.

Hey hey!

First congrats on the result, well done!

That Brett list was the one that won the tourney right? That's the strongest meta style list I've seen -- UK / US seem to both have found that same/similar build. Nasty setup.

Three questions:

- Do you think the loss of the Bolt Throwers completely are going to give you trouble in some matchups, including against Spawn?

- Are you going to go for a full 14-16 Silver Helms and stick the mage in there too to go for Ethereal Knights, or just a marginal increase from the mini units?

- How important was Monster Slayer on the Star Dragon?

Kind regards,

Axiem

[Mendaciun]

Yea, Brett list went 5-0. Our local player group is prob about 70% competitive so some lists were slightly fluffy but 70% were hard competitive lists. 3/16 players were that double baron vanguard peg list.

I'm not sure what I would do against them. My gut reaction is to remove them since they didn't fair that well this time, but I honestly might just put them back in since it uses up the rare points nicely and if the comparison is 2 bolt throwers or 3 sisters, I'm leaning toward 2 bolt throwers even if it limits the speed of the SkyCutter.

My bus of silver helms is 7-9 models of silver helm just to add combat res when I need them. I played the 2 by 6 as mostly chaff and the one time I tried to rely on them I charged 5 into the baron with 1 wound left and he saved the only wound through with a 6+ save, costing me the game by 100 points since I lost the silver helm unit. One of the units also got tied up by a rear charge by the green knight and I had to charge the rear of the green knight with my dragon to crumble it over 2 rounds of combat. If the silver helms had banner + war banner I could have cleared him in 1 round, even if he got rear combat resolution.

Monster slayer was attempted on a bloodthirster but he managed the 5+ ward save on armour of khorne, and then I absolutely flubbed all my saves so he got 4d3 wounds through with 6 attacks at Str6. Managed to crumble him after with combat resolution from griffon bsb, silver helms, and SkyCutter.

My final match was against my friend who I also suggested the monster slayer build on dragonlord to (he fought monster spam chaos from the TO by list and monster slayer a giant chaos spawn and 2 giants). It was a 3 round duel between our lords where I was hitting on 3s cause WS8, but he had eternal hatred. He landed the first monster killing blow but I saved with opal and I got him on the next round which he didn't save with pendant of khaeleth.

[Prince of Spires]

Some interesting lists in there. Archer darts seem to be the staple redirector in most of them. The other common unit seems to be sisters.

I'm curious about the Skycutter with bolt thrower. They're an interesting idea and give the list a sizeable ranged component even though it's a stardragon + griffon list. And they Skycutters can still have a strong combat impact as well when you manage to get one or two in there together with one of the monsters. I'm guessing it's a precision sledgehammer type list.

[Mendaciun]

Mostly a precision sledgehammer list. Most of my matches had my archers and sisters sit in the center of deployment to soften up and remove targets and dodge opposing ranged attacks with evasive. Pressures my opponent to move up into charge range to try to deal with the sisters shooting him at 30 inches.

Dragon + griffon + 1-2 of silver helms/SkyCutter on the flank opposing central deployment of my opponent so they can fly up and hammer the side, with the star dragon prince and griffon noble and SkyCutter beating a unit of 15 ironbreakers with BSB thane and shieldbearer king over 4 rounds

[Stampire]

High Elves can deal with a variety of matchups well... Until they run into an enemy dragon.

If we had any kind of reasonable tool for softening up dragons, equivalent to 2x cannons, I'd gladly stop running a dragon. The illusion caster with Monster Slayer above comes close, but even then, an enemy dragon is so much faster than a Lion Chariot setup that you're still hoping for your opponent to make a mistake.

That's my list, I want to replace the Lion Chariot with a Skycutter but I don't have a model as of now. So far positioning and illusion magic have been enough to lock dragons down but I wouldn't say I've played any amazing players with dragon lists yet. The mobility of the Skycutter would make the mage better at their job but the lion has been sufficient. Part of it is the dragons don't actually have targets to charge most of the time, if WBW is up the rider needs a magic weapon to be able to damage the Swordmasters at all, and I usually bring double Vaul's. Everything else is mobile enough to stay out of charge arc.

I've also changed out the RBTs for a second unit of Sisters.

[Turion Rilyaloce]

My final match was against my friend who I also suggested the monster slayer build on dragonlord to (he fought monster spam chaos from the TO by list and monster slayer a giant chaos spawn and 2 giants). It was a 3 round duel between our lords where I was hitting on 3s cause WS8, but he had eternal hatred. He landed the first monster killing blow but I saved with opal and I got him on the next round which he didn't save with pendant of khaeleth.

Between ASF, Opal, and BoC I think we have a huge advantage going toe to toe with other mounted monsters.

Opal doubling as cannon/stone thrower insurance when playing armies without a monster or monster slayer makes it so versatile.

The only thing I’m debating on my version of the Dragonlord is whether to drop the SoR for some magic resistance. With T6, 3+, 6++ and the Opal I’m not sure I need the 5+ regen but have had issues with T debuffs or spells that stop you from charging.

[Mendaciun]

3+/6++ isn't tanky enough without the Regen save. Against STR 7, AP2, d6 stomp dragon you take like 2 wounds from the dragon itself each round without accounting for the rider.

You also are now an actual target for cannons and stone throwers since you'll have a 5+ or 6+ and a 6++ ward.

[Axiem]

3+/6++ isn't tanky enough without the Regen save. Against STR 7, AP2, d6 stomp dragon you take like 2 wounds from the dragon itself each round without accounting for the rider.

You also are now an actual target for cannons and stone throwers since you'll have a 5+ or 6+ and a 6++ ward.

You could do the following:

Dragonslaying Sword
Dragonhelm
2x Opal

If you wanted MR though, I don't think you can make it work with the Dragonslaying Sword. Think you're going Great Weapon or Lance in that case. I really wish Null Stone was 70 points: I'd love to try Dragon Helm, Null Stone, 1x Opal.

Kind regards,

Axiem

[double_skulls]

the 2x Skycutters with Bolt Throwers -- that's a new edition. Haven't seen anyone utilizing them as mobile Eagle Claws to much effect yet.

I've been put off because I want to be charging, and if not I probably want to be marching to charge next turn. Not moving, or only slowly, to line up a single shot which can at best kill a single model feels not only like waste of the chariot but 25 points I'm unlikely to get a good return on. Shortish range, compounded with moving means its likely to need a 5+ to hit.

[Axiem]

3rd Overall
32 Player 2-day TEAM Tournament
5/5 Wins, 86/100 Points

# ++ Main Force ++ [2399pts]
## Characters [1199pts]
Archmage [410pts]: Hand Weapon, Battle Magic, Wizard Level 4, Sun Dragon (Dragon Fire, Full Plate Armour, Wicked Claws), Full Plate Armour, Dragon Helm, Seed of Rebirth, Blood of Caledor
Noble [312pts]: Hand Weapon, Shield, Full Plate Armour, Sun Dragon (Dragon Fire, Full Plate Armour, Wicked Claws), Battle Standard Bearer, Seed of Rebirth, Blood of Caledor
Prince [477pts]: Hand Weapon, Shield, Light Armour, Star Dragon (Dragon Fire, Full Plate Armour, Wicked Claws), General, Armour of Caledor, Seed of Rebirth, Pure of Heart

## Core [640pts]
Ellyrian Reavers [113pts]: Scouts, Skirmishers
• 5x Ellyrian Reaver [18pts]: Elven Steed (Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Light Armour, Cavalry Spear, Shortbow
• 1x Harbinger [8pts]
Ellyrian Reavers [113pts]: Scouts, Skirmishers
• 5x Ellyrian Reaver [18pts]: Elven Steed (Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Light Armour, Cavalry Spear, Shortbow
• 1x Harbinger [8pts]
Silver Helms [258pts]:
• 10x Silver Helm [24pts]: Barded Elven Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Lance, Shield
• 1x High Helm [6pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [6pts]
• 1x Musician [6pts]
Silver Helms [156pts]:
• 6x Silver Helm [24pts]: Barded Elven Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Lance, Shield
• 1x High Helm [6pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [6pts]

## Special [560pts]
Dragon Princes [317pts]:
• 8x Dragon Prince [37pts]: Barded Elven Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Full Plate Armour, Hand Weapon, Lance, Shield
• 1x Drakemaster [7pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [7pts]
• 1x Musician [7pts]
Dragon Princes [243pts]:
• 6x Dragon Prince [37pts]: Barded Elven Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Full Plate Armour, Hand Weapon, Lance, Shield
• 1x Drakemaster [7pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [7pts]
• 1x Musician [7pts]

Matches
Round 1: Match 1 [1] (20 / 0) Rats
Round 2: Match 4 [4] (20 / 0) Demons
Round 3: Match 2 [2] (20 / 0) Demons
Round 4: Match 2 [1] (13 / 7) DE
Round 5: Match 3 [4] (13 / 7) HE

Team tournament can skew things quite a bit, but good to see HE performing well.

Kind regards,

Axiem

[Turion Rilyaloce]

3+/6++ isn't tanky enough without the Regen save. Against STR 7, AP2, d6 stomp dragon you take like 2 wounds from the dragon itself each round without accounting for the rider.

You also are now an actual target for cannons and stone throwers since you'll have a 5+ or 6+ and a 6++ ward.

Other Dragons get thunderstomp which can’t be used against our own dragons right? Only infantry and cavalry.

You’re going to get 8 attacks off before they can kill you wound by wound, unless they are also ASF and Monster Slayer in which case you have 2 Opals and they probably don’t unless it’s a perfect mirror match.

I’m betting on spiking that 6 before. I tried harnessing the collective wisdom of Ulthuan to see wether there were funky faction builds that would give this plan problems, but it didn’t gain any traction.

[Axiem]

Other Dragons get thunderstomp which can’t be used against our own dragons right? Only infantry and cavalry.

You’re going to get 8 attacks off before they can kill you wound by wound, unless they are also ASF and Monster Slayer in which case you have 2 Opals and they probably don’t unless it’s a perfect mirror match.

I’m betting on spiking that 6 before. I tried harnessing the collective wisdom of Ulthuan to see wether there were funky faction builds that would give this plan problems, but it didn’t gain any traction.

Stomp doesn't have a size restriction anymore -- you just always get the extra stomps. 2 Dragons fighting each other each get to stomp.

Kind regards,

Axiem

[Axiem]

4/28
England 2-day

===
Miscast [1999 pts]
Warhammer: The Old World, High Elf Realms
===

++ Characters [852 pts] ++

Prince [532 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Full plate (from BoC)
- Shield
- General
- Star Dragon
- Seed of Rebirth
- Dragon Helm
- Opal Amulet
- Headsman's Axe
- Blood of Caledor

Archmage [320 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Level 4 Wizard
- Lothern Skycutter
- Silvery Wand
- Talisman of Protection
- Sea Guard
- Battle Magic

++ Core Units [501 pts] ++

6 Silver Helms [162 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Lances
- Hand weapons (Hooves)
- Heavy armour
- Barding
- Shields
- High Helm (champion)
- Standard bearer
- Musician

5 Ellyrian Reavers [119 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Cavalry spears
- Hand weapons (Hooves)
- Light armour
- Shortbows
- Scouts
- Skirmishes
- Harbinger (champion)
- Musician

5 Elven Archers [55 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Longbows
- Sentinel (champion)

5 Elven Archers [55 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Longbows
- Sentinel (champion)

5 Elven Archers [55 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Longbows
- Musician

5 Elven Archers [55 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Longbows
- Musician

++ Special Units [489 pts] ++

6 Dragon Princes [236 pts]
- Lance
- Full plate armour
- Barding
- Shield
- Drakemaster
- Standard bearer

14 Swordmasters of Hoeth [253 pts]
- Sword of Hoeth
- Heavy armour
- Drilled
- Bladelord [The Loremaster's Cloak]
- Standard bearer
- Musician

++ Rare Units [157 pts] ++

8 Sisters of Avelorn [157 pts]
- Bows of Avelorn
- Light armour
- High Sister [Ruby Ring of Ruin]

Kind regards,

Axiem

[Axiem]

4/33
Aus 2-Day

Andrew Styants (Bergzy) - High Elf Realms - Cav n co - [2249pts]

# ++ Main Force ++ [2249pts]
## Characters [1065pts]
Archmage [268pts]: Hand Weapon, Pure of Heart, Barded Elven Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Wizard Level 4, High Magic, Silvery Wand, Seed of Rebirth, Ruby Ring of Ruin
Noble [265pts]: Hand Weapon, Battle Standard Bearer, Pure of Heart, Griffon (Heavy Armour, Serrated Maw, Wicked Claws), Full Plate Armour, Burning Blade, Charmed Shield, Seed of Rebirth, Great Weapon
Prince [532pts]: Hand Weapon, Shield, General, Blood of Caledor, Star Dragon (Dragon Fire, Full Plate Armour, Wicked Claws), Full Plate Armour, Ogre Blade, Dragon Helm, Seed of Rebirth

## Core [583pts]
Ellyrian Reavers [133pts]: Skirmishers
• 7x Ellyrian Reaver [18pts]: Elven Steed (Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Light Armour, Cavalry Spear, Shortbow
Silver Helms [156pts]:
• 6x Silver Helm [24pts]: Barded Elven Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Lance, Shield
• 1x High Helm [6pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [6pts]
Silver Helms [162pts]:
• 6x Silver Helm [24pts]: Barded Elven Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Lance, Shield
• 1x High Helm [6pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [6pts]
• 1x Musician [6pts]
Silver Helms [132pts]:
• 5x Silver Helm [24pts]: Barded Elven Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Lance, Shield
• 1x High Helm [6pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [6pts]

## Special [356pts]
Dragon Princes [206pts]:
• 5x Dragon Prince [37pts]: Barded Elven Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Full Plate Armour, Hand Weapon, Lance, Shield
• 1x Drakemaster [7pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [7pts]
• 1x Musician [7pts]
Tiranoc Chariot [75pts]:
• 1x Tiranoc Chariot [75pts]: 2x Elven Steed (Hand Weapon), 2x Tiranoc Charioteer (Cavalry Spear, Hand Weapon, Longbow)
Tiranoc Chariot [75pts]:
• 1x Tiranoc Chariot [75pts]: 2x Elven Steed (Hand Weapon), 2x Tiranoc Charioteer (Cavalry Spear, Hand Weapon, Longbow)

## Rare [245pts]
Great Eagles [60pts]:
• 1x Great Eagle [60pts]: Serrated Maw, Wicked Claws
Great Eagles [60pts]:
• 1x Great Eagle [60pts]: Serrated Maw, Wicked Claws
Lion Chariot of Chrace [125pts]:
• 1x Lion Chariot [125pts]: 2x Lion Charioteer (Chracian Great Blade, Hand Weapon), 2x War Lion (Hand Weapon)


Matches
Round 1: Match 2 (10 / 10)
Round 2: Match 5 (13 / 7)
Round 3: Match 3 (10 / 10)
Round 4: Match 15 (12 / 8 )
Round 5: Match 4 (16 / 4)

Kind regards,

Axiem

[Turion Rilyaloce]

Other Dragons get thunderstomp which can’t be used against our own dragons right? Only infantry and cavalry.

You’re going to get 8 attacks off before they can kill you wound by wound, unless they are also ASF and Monster Slayer in which case you have 2 Opals and they probably don’t unless it’s a perfect mirror match.

I’m betting on spiking that 6 before. I tried harnessing the collective wisdom of Ulthuan to see wether there were funky faction builds that would give this plan problems, but it didn’t gain any traction.

Stomp doesn't have a size restriction anymore -- you just always get the extra stomps. 2 Dragons fighting each other each get to stomp.

Kind regards,

Axiem

Is this in a FAQ? I thought because they are Behemoth they get thunderstomp instead of stomp

[Axiem]

Is this in a FAQ? I thought because they are Behemoth they get thunderstomp instead of stomp

The wording of Thunderstomp is that the Thunderstomp portion of the "Stomp Attacks" cannot be used. They still stomp each other, but you can't apply the -2 AP against other Monstrous Creatures or Behemoths.

It's a nested rule under the Stomp rule.

Kind regards,

Axiem

[Turion Rilyaloce]

Is this in a FAQ? I thought because they are Behemoth they get thunderstomp instead of stomp

The wording of Thunderstomp is that the Thunderstomp portion of the "Stomp Attacks" cannot be used. They still stomp each other, but you can't apply the -2 AP against other Monstrous Creatures or Behemoths.

It's a nested rule under the Stomp rule.

Kind regards,

Axiem

Ahhhhh I see this interaction now. Stomp is just at strength but no AP, thunderstomp is at S with -2 if targeting the appropriate unit type.

Thanks. This changes how I’ve been playing quite a bit. Been robbing myself of some attacks.

[Struthy]

4/33
Aus 2-Day

Andrew Styants (Bergzy) - High Elf Realms - Cav n co - [2249pts]

# ++ Main Force ++ [2249pts]
## Characters [1065pts]
Archmage [268pts]: Hand Weapon, Pure of Heart, Barded Elven Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Wizard Level 4, High Magic, Silvery Wand, Seed of Rebirth, Ruby Ring of Ruin
Noble [265pts]: Hand Weapon, Battle Standard Bearer, Pure of Heart, Griffon (Heavy Armour, Serrated Maw, Wicked Claws), Full Plate Armour, Burning Blade, Charmed Shield, Seed of Rebirth, Great Weapon
Prince [532pts]: Hand Weapon, Shield, General, Blood of Caledor, Star Dragon (Dragon Fire, Full Plate Armour, Wicked Claws), Full Plate Armour, Ogre Blade, Dragon Helm, Seed of Rebirth

## Core [583pts]
Ellyrian Reavers [133pts]: Skirmishers
• 7x Ellyrian Reaver [18pts]: Elven Steed (Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Light Armour, Cavalry Spear, Shortbow
Silver Helms [156pts]:
• 6x Silver Helm [24pts]: Barded Elven Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Lance, Shield
• 1x High Helm [6pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [6pts]
Silver Helms [162pts]:
• 6x Silver Helm [24pts]: Barded Elven Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Lance, Shield
• 1x High Helm [6pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [6pts]
• 1x Musician [6pts]
Silver Helms [132pts]:
• 5x Silver Helm [24pts]: Barded Elven Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Lance, Shield
• 1x High Helm [6pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [6pts]

## Special [356pts]
Dragon Princes [206pts]:
• 5x Dragon Prince [37pts]: Barded Elven Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Full Plate Armour, Hand Weapon, Lance, Shield
• 1x Drakemaster [7pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [7pts]
• 1x Musician [7pts]
Tiranoc Chariot [75pts]:
• 1x Tiranoc Chariot [75pts]: 2x Elven Steed (Hand Weapon), 2x Tiranoc Charioteer (Cavalry Spear, Hand Weapon, Longbow)
Tiranoc Chariot [75pts]:
• 1x Tiranoc Chariot [75pts]: 2x Elven Steed (Hand Weapon), 2x Tiranoc Charioteer (Cavalry Spear, Hand Weapon, Longbow)

## Rare [245pts]
Great Eagles [60pts]:
• 1x Great Eagle [60pts]: Serrated Maw, Wicked Claws
Great Eagles [60pts]:
• 1x Great Eagle [60pts]: Serrated Maw, Wicked Claws
Lion Chariot of Chrace [125pts]:
• 1x Lion Chariot [125pts]: 2x Lion Charioteer (Chracian Great Blade, Hand Weapon), 2x War Lion (Hand Weapon)


Matches
Round 1: Match 2 (10 / 10)
Round 2: Match 5 (13 / 7)
Round 3: Match 3 (10 / 10)
Round 4: Match 15 (12 / 8 )
Round 5: Match 4 (16 / 4)

Kind regards,

Axiem

Andrew is part of Old World Fanatics Podcast, good to see him playing High Elves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxiBkyEOvWY

Have not listened to this yet but it seems like he's got quite the run down on how it went.

[Axiem]

Nice find! I’ll have to make time to listen to it.

Kind regards,

Axiem

[Imrikslance]

Nice find! I’ll have to make time to listen to it.

Kind regards,

Axiem

Are you including all HE tournament results you find, Axiem? How are you finding them?

[Axiem]

Are you including all HE tournament results you find, Axiem? How are you finding them?

Ones where HE are performing particularly well. Watching https://metahammer.netlify.app and new recruit tournament results.

Kind regards,

Axiem

[Axiem]

Some good HE Results!

1/14
One-Day Spain

### Characters [993 pts]
- Prince [512 pts]
-# (Lance, Full plate armour, Shield, General, Star Dragon, Seed of Rebirth, Dragon Helm, Talisman of Protection, Opal Amulet, Pure of Heart)
- Prince [481 pts]
-# (Great weapon, Light armour, Shield, Star Dragon, Armour of Caledor, Seed of Rebirth, Pure of Heart)
### Core Units [505 pts]
- 5 Silver Helms [126 pts]
-# (Hand weapons, Lances, Hand weapons (Hooves), Heavy armour, Barding, Shields, High Helm (champion))
- 5 Silver Helms [126 pts]
-# (Hand weapons, Lances, Hand weapons (Hooves), Heavy armour, Barding, Shields, High Helm (champion))
- 5 Ellyrian Reavers [103 pts]
-# (Hand weapons, Cavalry spears, Hand weapons (Hooves), Light armour, Scouts, Skirmishers, Harbinger (champion))
- 5 Elven Archers [50 pts]
-# (Hand weapons, Longbows)
- 5 Elven Archers [50 pts]
-# (Hand weapons, Longbows)
- 5 Elven Archers [50 pts]
-# (Hand weapons, Longbows)
### Allies [498 pts]
- Wizard Lord [237 pts]
-# (Hand weapon, Level 4 Wizard, Empire Warhorse, Lore Familiar, Wizard's Familiar, Battle Magic)
- 5 Empire Knights [128 pts]
-# (Hand weapons, Lances, Shields, Heavy armour, Preceptor (champion), Standard bearer, Musician)
- 2 Demigryph Knights [133 pts]
-# (Lances, Shields, Full plate armour, Demigryph Preceptor (champion))

3/12
US One Day

===
High Elf Realms [1991 pts]
Warhammer: The Old World, High Elf Realms
===

++ Characters [821 pts] ++

Prince [518 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Full plate armour
- Shield
- General
- Star Dragon
- Talisman of Protection
- Dragon Helm
- Seed of Rebirth
- Giant Blade
- Pure of Heart

Archmage [303 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Level 4 Wizard
- Barded Elven Steed
- Lore Familiar
- The White Sword
- Pure of Heart
- Battle Magic

++ Core Units [529 pts] ++

5 Ellyrian Reavers [115 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Cavalry spears
- Hand weapons (Hooves)
- Light armour
- Scouts
- Skirmishers
- Harbinger (champion)
- Standard bearer
- Musician

5 Silver Helms [138 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Lances
- Hand weapons (Hooves)
- Heavy armour
- Barding
- Shields
- High Helm (champion)
- Standard bearer
- Musician

5 Silver Helms [138 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Lances
- Hand weapons (Hooves)
- Heavy armour
- Barding
- Shields
- High Helm (champion)
- Standard bearer
- Musician

5 Silver Helms [138 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Lances
- Hand weapons (Hooves)
- Heavy armour
- Barding
- Shields
- High Helm (champion)
- Standard bearer
- Musician

++ Special Units [461 pts] ++

5 Dragon Princes [236 pts]
- Lance
- Full plate armour
- Barding
- Shield
- Drakemaster
- Standard bearer [Rampaging Banner]
- Musician

3 Tiranoc Chariots [225 pts]
- Cavalry spear
- Longbow

++ Rare Units [180 pts] ++

Great Eagle [60 pts]

Great Eagle [60 pts]

Great Eagle [60 pts]

1/15
SoCal Open -- US 2-Day

High Elf Realms - Unnamed list - [1998pts]

# ++ Main Force ++ [1998pts]
## Characters [991pts]
Archmage [520pts]: Hand Weapon, Pure of Heart, Moon Dragon (Dragon Fire, Full Plate Armour, Wicked Claws), Wizard Level 4, Illusion, Dragon Slaying Sword, Seed of Rebirth, Talisman Of Protection
Prince [471pts]: Hand Weapon, Shield, General, Pure of Heart, Moon Dragon (Dragon Fire, Full Plate Armour, Wicked Claws), Light Armour, Headsman's Axe, Armour of Caledor, Seed of Rebirth, Longbow

## Core [527pts]
Ellyrian Reavers [90pts]:
• 5x Ellyrian Reaver [18pts]: Elven Steed (Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Light Armour, Cavalry Spear, Shortbow
Lothern Sea Guard [437pts]: Magic Standard
• 30x Lothern Sea Guard [12pts]: Hand Weapon, Light Armour, Thrusting Spear, Warbow, Shield
• 1x Sea Master [32pts]: The Loremaster's Cloak
• 1x Standard Bearer [45pts]: Razor Standard

## Rare [480pts]
Lion Chariot of Chrace [125pts]:
• 1x Lion Chariot [125pts]: 2x Lion Charioteer (Chracian Great Blade, Hand Weapon), 2x War Lion (Hand Weapon)
Lion Chariot of Chrace [125pts]:
• 1x Lion Chariot [125pts]: 2x Lion Charioteer (Chracian Great Blade, Hand Weapon), 2x War Lion (Hand Weapon)
Lothern Skycutters [115pts]:
• 1x Lothern Skycutter [115pts]: 3x Sea Guard Crew, Cavalry Spear, Hand Weapon, Shortbow, Swiftfeather Roc (Wicked Claws), Eagle-Eye Bolt Thrower
Lothern Skycutters [115pts]:
• 1x Lothern Skycutter [115pts]: 3x Sea Guard Crew, Cavalry Spear, Hand Weapon, Shortbow, Swiftfeather Roc (Wicked Claws), Eagle-Eye Bolt Thrower

Look at all those Chariots!

I think the last one is closest to the meta choice. The medium-large unit of Sea Guard in Core is a really solid way to set it up -- and an already established tactic used in T9A. The ruleset and access to Razor Standard is awesome.

Kind regards,

Axiem

[Axiem]

1st Place
One-day, Spain

Fran (Clyper) - High Elf Realms - Caledor 2000v4 Nova - [2000pts]

# ++ Main Force ++ [2000pts]
## Characters [770pts]
Archmage [258pts]: Hand Weapon, Pure of Heart, Barded Elven Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Wizard Level 4, High Magic, Silvery Wand, Seed of Rebirth, Opal Amulet
Prince [512pts]: Hand Weapon, Shield, General, Pure of Heart, Star Dragon (Dragon Fire, Full Plate Armour, Wicked Claws), Full Plate Armour, Dragon Helm, Seed of Rebirth, Opal Amulet, Talisman Of Protection, Lance

## Core [501pts]
Ellyrian Reavers [113pts]: Scouts, Skirmishers
• 5x Ellyrian Reaver [18pts]: Elven Steed (Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Light Armour, Cavalry Spear, Shortbow
• 1x Harbinger [8pts]
Elven Archers [50pts]:
• 5x Elven Archer [10pts]: Hand Weapon, Longbow
Elven Archers [50pts]:
• 5x Elven Archer [10pts]: Hand Weapon, Longbow
Silver Helms [132pts]:
• 5x Silver Helm [24pts]: Barded Elven Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Lance, Shield
• 1x High Helm [6pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [6pts]
Silver Helms [156pts]:
• 6x Silver Helm [24pts]: Barded Elven Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Lance, Shield
• 1x High Helm [6pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [6pts]

## Special [472pts]
Dragon Princes [236pts]:
• 6x Dragon Prince [37pts]: Barded Elven Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Full Plate Armour, Hand Weapon, Lance, Shield
• 1x Drakemaster [7pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [7pts]
Dragon Princes [236pts]:
• 6x Dragon Prince [37pts]: Barded Elven Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Full Plate Armour, Hand Weapon, Lance, Shield
• 1x Drakemaster [7pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [7pts]

## Rare [257pts]
Great Eagles [60pts]:
• 1x Great Eagle [60pts]: Serrated Maw, Wicked Claws
Sisters of Avelorn [197pts]: Stubborn
• 10x Sister of Avelorn [15pts]: Bow of Avelorn, Hand Weapon, Light Armour
• 1x High Sister [37pts]: Ruby Ring of Ruin
Matches
Round 1: Match 5 (20 / 0 )
Round 2: Match 5 (18 / 2)
Round 3: Match 1 (13 / 7)

Kind regards,

Axiem

[Struthy]

My recent tournament list and result. Result was not published, my LGS ran it. We had lots of strong players attend and I was the only High Elf player.

19th Oct Melbourne Australia 20 odd players
2nd Place 3/3 wins
Was just W/L format, not sure how tie-breakers worked. Dwarves came first with 3/3 wins also.

High Elf Realms - 2k Dragon and friends - [1998pts]

# ++ Main Force ++ [1998pts]
## Characters [995pts]
Archmage [200pts]: Hand Weapon, Sea Guard, Wizard Level 4, Battle Magic, Warbow, Silvery Wand
Noble [260pts]: Hand Weapon, Battle Standard Bearer, Pure of Heart, Griffon (Heavy Armour, Serrated Maw, Wicked Claws), Full Plate Armour, Charmed Shield, Seed of Rebirth, Great Weapon
Prince [535pts]: Hand Weapon, General, Blood of Caledor, Star Dragon (Dragon Fire, Full Plate Armour, Wicked Claws), Full Plate Armour, Ogre Blade, Dragon Helm, Charmed Shield, Seed of Rebirth

## Core [502pts]
Ellyrian Reavers [100pts]: Scouts, Skirmishers
• 5x Ellyrian Reaver [17pts]: Elven Steed (Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Light Armour, Shortbow
Elven Archers [50pts]:
• 5x Elven Archer [10pts]: Hand Weapon, Longbow
Elven Archers [50pts]:
• 5x Elven Archer [10pts]: Hand Weapon, Longbow
Elven Archers [50pts]:
• 5x Elven Archer [10pts]: Hand Weapon, Longbow
Silver Helms [126pts]:
• 5x Silver Helm [24pts]: Barded Elven Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Lance, Shield
• 1x High Helm [6pts]
Silver Helms [126pts]:
• 5x Silver Helm [24pts]: Barded Elven Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Lance, Shield
• 1x High Helm [6pts]

## Special [192pts]
Dragon Princes [192pts]:
• 5x Dragon Prince [37pts]: Barded Elven Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Full Plate Armour, Hand Weapon, Lance, Shield
• 1x Drakemaster [7pts]

## Rare [309pts]
Sisters of Avelorn [112pts]:
• 5x Sister of Avelorn [15pts]: Bow of Avelorn, Hand Weapon, Light Armour
• 1x High Sister [37pts]: Ruby Ring of Ruin
Sisters of Avelorn [197pts]:
• 11x Sister of Avelorn [15pts]: Bow of Avelorn, Hand Weapon, Light Armour
• 1x High Sister [32pts]: The Loremaster's Cloak

Game 1 - Chaos Dwarfs (2x L4 on monsters, 1 Iron Daemon 21 Infernal Guard w/ Blunderbusses ) 20-0 Dragon took out every unit except 1 mage and chaff which was shot off
Game 2 - Vamps (Lord on Dragon, L4 Mortis, 2 Terrorgheists) 16-4? didn't count too close after his general died. Dragon & BSB killed a Terorghiest & both overran into big Grave Guard unit. Took a counter charge from his Dragon and I won combat resolution 15-14. I restrained and charged my Dragon into his Mortis, killing it and them crumbling the rest.
Game 3 - Brets (2 peg characters, Green Knight, L4, 2 Peg units but no horn!) 20-0 Meeting engagement - Opponent rolled 1's for both his Peg units and was fairly tilted after turn 1 when my Dragon ate his big Realm unit with his L4. Evaded his Peg characters with terrain but eventually got his Monster Slayer into my Dragon. He conceded the game after my Charmed Shield saved his only Monster Slayer roll .

[Axiem]

Nice list, nice results!

Bet it's the last time the Bretts leave home without the horn!

Kind regards,

Axiem

[Kevofett]

Neat, I was just introduced to Ulthuan.net, my list was the winner of the SoCal Open. This is a treasure trove of lists! I did not expect to see mine anywhere on the net hah.

[Prince of Spires]

Neat, I was just introduced to Ulthuan.net, my list was the winner of the SoCal Open. This is a treasure trove of lists! I did not expect to see mine anywhere on the net hah.

Welcome!

We're keeping our eyes on everyone here in Ulthuan. There's no escaping us

I liked your list. It looks very agressive. How did you use the Seaguard? I like the idea of them, but somehow I can never get them to work...

[Axiem]

Neat, I was just introduced to Ulthuan.net, my list was the winner of the SoCal Open. This is a treasure trove of lists! I did not expect to see mine anywhere on the net hah.

Welcome!

I'm curious to hear how the Lion Chariot's performed for you? My current list has 4x Sky Sloops with Bolt Throwers, and I love the Lion Chariots as a character mount, but I can't seem to justify them on paper. Any insights?

Kind regards,

Axiem

[Ielthan]

Neat, I was just introduced to Ulthuan.net, my list was the winner of the SoCal Open. This is a treasure trove of lists! I did not expect to see mine anywhere on the net hah.

Welcome!

I'm curious to hear how the Lion Chariot's performed for you? My current list has 4x Sky Sloops with Bolt Throwers, and I love the Lion Chariots as a character mount, but I can't seem to justify them on paper. Any insights?

Kind regards,

Axiem

Used the Prince on chariot in a tournament recently. I was getting to grips with the game on the first day and I think I was too reticent to use him as I was trying the classic High Elf counter attack tactics and worried about him getting stuck in too early. He didn't do much on that day tbh, but he did zone dragons/terrorgheists in every game. Every opponent was pretty much terrified of him so for relatively cheap he held off some expensive models from getting stuck into my army.

On day 2 though I decided to be much more aggressive (which is how I think we have to be in this edition tbh), and he was pretty great. In the first game he basically smashed up a big block of ushabti by himself and zoned the enemy level 4 on bone dragon heavily limiting it's usefulness. We ran out of time on turn 4 but he would have picked up quite a lot more had the game gone on. By the last game I felt much more confident with the rules and he went on an absolute rampage. Through kills and panic tests from his trail of carnage he picked up: a gigantic spawn (finally got him in vs a monster and he deleted it), an exalted champion on daemonic mount with 2 dragon ogres (the enemy general, and they charged him!), the enemy level 4, a unit of 12 beserkers and a big block of 25 marauders. Game was called on turn 5 otherwise he would have gotten a unit of skin wolves too. Suffice to say he was the MVP of that game! Honestly the white sword build is great, the biggest issue with him is no swiftstride though which makes getting the charge not too simple. I had taken shadow warriors with chariot runner and feigned flight to try and bait charges with and screen him, I think with more practice maybe it can work.