Ulthuan

2500 LORDS 624 Prince 624 -star dragon (remember to flame breathe in hand to hand to negact enemy regen saves) -great weapon -dragon armour -shield (armour save against shooting) -Helm of Fortune -Golden Crown of Atrazar -The Other Trickerster Shard (helps the dragon so much, I kill chaos war shrine...

I kept losing over and over against good players when I stacked stuff up in the magic phase. I played a star dragon out of desperation and started winning games. Lots of them. The more mobile and task oriented i started making my list the more I started winning. Ill work out a list I think is good i...

Ok so how are we going to win? Speed.... speed and formation..... wins games. End of story. I've been wrecking lizardment armies full of salamanders and temple gaurd. I'm wrecking template and gun lines. People actually think HE are over powered now (obviously not....) were I play. I'm killing hell ...

Ok magic oriented armies are not competitive in 8th edition for HE and this is why. 1) Teclis and BoH are competitive but are banned in most tourneys, they also make for bad games. 2) Magic is the most unreliable phase of the game. This is espicially bad for shadow magic because it's harder to drawl...

Cheese some heavy shadow magic. It can make dwarves mad. Use the Book of Hoeth and he'll get real pissy real fast but go ahead and do it if you want to win. I make my armies based on speed and have almost no infantry other then core and I do a lot better against template armies now. Eagles, knights,...

Skeinsliver can be good against this. First turn is nice when enemy gots a lot of ranged templates. WoC is hard to get +1 against but if you can get the +2 to going first it can really cut down on hell cannon's damage. Thunderstomp and templates make are supposive impressive infantry seem barely wor...

Oh i just posted something as a new topic would of just came here to ask tho since its in the lore of beast. I was thinking about this build. Forlaithe's Robe Talisman of Saphery and lore of beast. Turn into a dragon in hand to hand with asf then remove the RiP before the enemy can strike back at u ...

So what If like I had an archmage geared out like this... not sure how pratical this would be. Level 4 Beast Archmage -Talisman of Saphery -Forlaithe Robes -Dispell Scroll The idea would be too like get into combat with something insanely strong, duel or something of that sort that doesnt generate s...

Flames of the Pheonix, I use it almost as a defensive spell because people have to give up some power dice on their turn to take it down. This can often im times completly shut down an enemies magic phase if they choose to dispell it. I love it against Witch elves and plaque monks hehe. Sometimes dw...

I think the list is pretty good the spear blocks combined with DP can break a unit maybe as well. In general I like it

2500 High Elf List LORDS AND HEROES 989 Prince 618 -star dragon -great weapon -heavy armour -Dragon Helm -The Other Trickster's Shard -Vambracers of Defense Level 2 Fire Mage 155 -Dispell Scroll Noble 216 -great eagle -battle standard bearer -great weapon -dragon armour -shield -Helm of Fortune -Opa...

Someone said I should put the Noble with the DPs but I think its a lot better on a great eagle because I can fly over people and kill war machines with him or have a better chance at trying my combining the charge where ever the noble hammer is. To save points im using my bsb as a hammer he has 3 wo...

its a really good build but right now I am at 3+ reroll armour cause dragon helm gives me additional armour save... 3+ rerollable armour and 4+ ward bares off most infantry and STR 6 is just so good. First combat against good player my guy is usually tied up in a challenge trying to protect their wi...

Is it 20 points? Damn. Why are there 2 items with the same name? :wink: In that case just swap the GW for a lance or halberd and it's fine. Sure, you lose a bit, but it's not that bad THe other trickster's shard is only 15 but sadly I think it goes like this Prince 150 -star dragon 370 -great weapo...

Consider a moon dragon instead of a star dragon. This allows you to get a 2+ AS on the Prince, and saves you points for elsewhere! There's not too much a Star dragon can do that a Moon dragon can't, plus it takes away some of your vulnerability to init tests! u use the riders ini in such cases im p...

hey grant me power the other trickster great weapon AoC and vam is 627... im pretty sure not legal... hehe yeah the shield thing is kind of jerk thing i started doing it on accident i orginally designed the model to have golden crown of atrazar and enchanted shield... I glued a great weapon onto the...

I love the WS 7 on star dragons (hits other dragons on 3s).... stegs hit on 5+ for example. Lots of monsters with ws 3. and the 3+ armour is great. The dragon is way more likely to be attacked then the rider anyways. Also I do have 2+ ward against flames aready I have the Dragonhelm... 3+ rerollable...

2500 High Elf List LORDS AND HEROES 989 Prince 618 *if only I could do the 627 build at 2500 :(* -star dragon -great weapon -heavy armour -Dragon Helm -The Other Trickster's Shard -Vambracers of Defense Level 2 Fire Mage 155 -Dispell Scroll Noble 216 -great eagle -battle standard bearer *looks like ...

So 86 post later has revealed to me that me thinking high elves are moderate at best w/o BoH/Tec is wrong. Not based on my experiences but based on you guys opinion. Since so many people explained to me it's probably just me and not my army I am going to agree. Despite all the flamming I think this ...

I never used large units as a deathstar they could never go toe to toe with a real deathstar. I was using magic items to buff lots of guys at once so large units worked for me. Loremaster cloak, Banner of the World Dragon, Okkam's mindrazor (for the spears). My support units were of course small I o...

I played a few more games and I've stopped the horde of white lions. It's a nice unit formation but I decided there was better. The problem i started to have is if I ever got hit by a medium level unit in the flank my white lions would only get 1 attack and could rarely reform to face the enemy. I w...

Im 100% certain high elves are a middle teir at best. I keep playing them because nutters keep telling me they are good. I want to find out how, even tho I dont really believe them. BoH, is the most balancing thing high elves have at their disposal and your considered a total @$$ if you use it. Peop...

I could of danced a little longer, I had about 300 point lead but I was not sure if I was going to get both stegs like a planned. I thought I got 2 chances to land a mindrazor on average so I went for it. I should of danced around more now that his dwellers was gone, you guys are correct. I am sorry...

yeah, that is my point... his army is so good i cant beat it without a mind razor.... i did pratice twice and lost both but i could not make a stronger list that is still good against everyone... the 30 white lions where just suppose to get me 2 chances to land mind razor... if he ended the game wit...

I am a power gammer lol. A star dragon how silly. I guess it could be good sometimes. I really wish I could use mine. I was on such a mad winning spree back in 7th. My days are done lol. I felt like in 7th U could really stick it to a person if you did all ur charges just right. I would sometimes pr...

Hmm if you think 30 white lions is excessive u probably would not approve my my spearmen block with 65 spearmen in it. I think 8th edition really is about large units. The lions had banner of world dragon cause they wont need any buffs the spears try to get okkams or hold out with steadfast untill t...

Back on my rant. So tonight I killed 3 salamanders 24 skinks 2 stegs before my blocks even got into into combat, I lost 1 eagle and 2 DP at this point. He landed dwellers with IF on my WL horde block with BSB but it was a trick cause I had World Dragon (he got a 10 for his miscast result, hehe sucke...

Something about your avatar is cool to me Brain Mage... very strange as it is a goat

Maybe u could make a good avoidance shooting army with the underdogs hehe. Hmm U have given me an idea on what I should be doing with all my worthless HE models. Im going to make an underdog army too. I got lots of SW reavers archers and RBTs?

Dont use RBTs they are worthless in to many different match ups.