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by Ozymandias
Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:01 am
Forum: 8th ed - Army Lists
Topic: Mikes Army List Blog
Replies: 3
Views: 1817

Re: Mikes Army List Blog

Less Bolt Throwers, More Eagles! Eagles are great value and if taken in numbers can survive enemy shooting and then mess up their War Machines or kamikaze the enemy battleline to hold up nasty units for a turn or shut down enemy shooting for a turn. Also if the Dragon Princes disappointed you with t...
by Ozymandias
Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:26 am
Forum: 8th ed - Army Lists
Topic: 3000 ‘Ard Boyz Style List
Replies: 8
Views: 2820

Re: 3000 ‘Ard Boyz Style List

I wary of saying even more now because this is your list, not mine. But the list looks good and you can tweak what you want. I'd just say don't forget that if your noble has the White Sword he doesn't need a Great Weapon so save those few points there and that he's already Initiative 7 so what's a P...
by Ozymandias
Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:44 am
Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
Topic: ArchChicken?
Replies: 6
Views: 2204

Re: ArchChicken?

Damn, forgot about that.
by Ozymandias
Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:01 am
Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
Topic: ArchChicken?
Replies: 6
Views: 2204

Re: ArchChicken?

If you did the Folariath's Robe/Loremaster's Cloak/Silver Wand build on him, only Dwarf Cannons and Magic Wood Elf bows could touch him - aside from Banner of Eternal Flame on a unit that can shoot, then he would be safe from almost anything in almost any army.
by Ozymandias
Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:40 am
Forum: 8th ed - Army Lists
Topic: 3000 ‘Ard Boyz Style List
Replies: 8
Views: 2820

Re: 3000 ‘Ard Boyz Style List

I reckon your best Banner arrangement would be Razor on PG, Sorcery on WL and Ellyrion on DP. WL are already ASF Re-rolls magical S6 attacks, they don't need to be armour piercing, PG benefit from it much more. Why are you spending 75pts on BotWD and then putting it on a unit that could have a 2+ Ma...
by Ozymandias
Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:54 am
Forum: 8th ed - Army Lists
Topic: 2000pt list with archmage in the front lines!
Replies: 9
Views: 3278

Re: 2000pt list with archmage in the front lines!

If you're facing Dwarves seriously consider taking the Book of Hoeth on your Archmage just to get a spell through, I know that means he's not going to be able to stand on the front lines that safely, but an Archmage is designed to hurl spells not get distracted by champions or characters (who probab...
by Ozymandias
Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:37 am
Forum: 8th ed - Army Lists
Topic: 3000 ‘Ard Boyz Style List
Replies: 8
Views: 2820

Re: 3000 ‘Ard Boyz Style List

I like Foxbat's revisions apart from Razor Banner on Dragon Princes. I feel it's wasted there, swap it for the Banner of Sorcery and give it to the Phoenix Guard instead. Also, what's the Noble with Loremaster's Cloak designed to do? The best role of a non-BSB noble is probably as a challenger, so g...
by Ozymandias
Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:21 am
Forum: 8th ed - Army Lists
Topic: 1500pts local tourney
Replies: 2
Views: 1206

Re: 1500pts local tourney

Take another Archer and drop the Archer musician, and swap the Archmage's gear to Book of Hoeth to make it 1499, and with the Archmage take Life, your White Lions will cut through anything as long as you keep them alive, Lore of Life will do just that, especially with the BoH brushing aside any magi...
by Ozymandias
Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:50 am
Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
Topic: What's the point of shooting?
Replies: 11
Views: 3209

What's the point of shooting?

In 8th edition Bolt Throwers can be killed easily and in all the lists I've seen so far (and made myself) the 25% of Core has been devoted to Spears more often than even LSG, and almost never Archers. This suggests that people are almost ignoring shooting. 2000pts of Elves = 500pts of Core, which is...
by Ozymandias
Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:15 am
Forum: 8th ed - Army Lists
Topic: New HIgh Elf Player (800pt. List)
Replies: 8
Views: 3070

Re: New HIgh Elf Player (800pt. List)

I'd recommend taking the Staff of Solidity for 20pts (allowing you to ignore your first miscast, so you can throw those big dice spells around) and then add 2 more Phoenix Guard, so you should have exactly 800pts total. As for your magic lore, why Fire? I reckon Light or Heavens (for Wind Blast) cou...
by Ozymandias
Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:24 pm
Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
Topic: Some Thoughts on Star Dragon
Replies: 12
Views: 5889

Re: Some Thoughts on Star Dragon

Here's a cunning plan also for getting your foot Prince into the right combats, or at least for preserving mages when you've got a combat foot Prince. Lore of Shadow - Base power allows you to switch places with another character (need clarification that it can be any character, not just other mages...
by Ozymandias
Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:01 am
Forum: 8th ed - Army Lists
Topic: 2K 8th, Breaking the new mold...
Replies: 4
Views: 2814

Re: 2K 8th, Breaking the new mold...

Great fast moving list for 2500 points, but can suggest a couple of tweaks for using this style army for 2000pts? Use the Mage combo from the 2500 list with the BSB from the 2k list. So the 270 pt. Archmage with the 130 lvl. 1. Then the Dragon Prince BSB. = 588 pts. Core = 2 x 24 Spears, FC, one has...
by Ozymandias
Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:47 pm
Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
Topic: 8th Ed and Tomb Kings
Replies: 2
Views: 3051

Re: 8th Ed and Tomb Kings

Why am I stopping the Urgencies? I want my Swordmasters in combat, I want to see the look on my opponents face when I ram my Dragon Princes down his throat on turn 1 (hehe, I'm enjoying the idea of that one, but could it actually happen? Start 24" apart, he comes forward 8", I need 16"...
by Ozymandias
Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:19 pm
Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
Topic: 8th ed Shooting & Gun lines
Replies: 19
Views: 4609

Re: 8th ed Shooting & Gun lines

I reckon the best way to anti-gunline is to take Lore of Heavens with a level 2. Get the Basic Spell and any other spell except the 1st and your in business. The Basic spell (Ice Shard Blizzard) means that anything on the board (so it does affect you too!) that uses BS to shoot is at -1 to hit. Whil...
by Ozymandias
Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:09 am
Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
Topic: magic and blocks
Replies: 13
Views: 3512

Re: magic and blocks

On your question about shooting Seaguard are great for defensive killing with a stand and shoot reaction followed by fighting in 4 ranks without being a horde, but 20 Seaguard with FC are 285 pts, while 20 Spears (FC) + 10 Archers (Naked) are 315 points. And seeing as you have to 50% core you have t...
by Ozymandias
Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:09 pm
Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
Topic: Tactical Exercise - 8th Ed. Army construction
Replies: 43
Views: 35088

Re: Tactical Exercise - 8th Ed. Army construction

Pros for the LSG are more shooting attacks per unit than your archers (if they're 10x3 they get 20 shots on the move and 25 stood still, while arranging them 5x6 is 10 on the move and 19 stood still - but in a better set up for Combat). And also that they a better defensive combat unit than Spearmen...
by Ozymandias
Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:26 pm
Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
Topic: Spell Synergies
Replies: 25
Views: 21424

Re: Spell Synergies

Cheers Hero, I gotta admit that you're first Magic post on your blog nailed the best magic lores (except High Magic) straight away. There you mention some amazing spell combos only using the Lore of Metal. Imagine building a list around this Lore and whacking most of your Core points into 30 Seaguar...
by Ozymandias
Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:45 am
Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
Topic: Spell Synergies
Replies: 25
Views: 21424

Spell Synergies

I've been trying to experiment with all the magic spells to see if those lores which we're writing off as not that great (Fire comes to mind) can be improved when used in combination with other lores. So for those people that have to have dragon mages how about using this combo: Fulminating Flame Ca...
by Ozymandias
Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:08 pm
Forum: 7th ed - Tactics Forum
Topic: Eagles
Replies: 11
Views: 11618

Re: Eagles

I reckon eagles just aren't worth it in the new rules as flyers only move 10", you can pass a Ld test to avoid march blocking and if someone does try to redirect you can now pass a Ld test to change the target of the charge. So eagles will rarely redirect/march block successfully and fast cav w...
by Ozymandias
Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:59 am
Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
Topic: Tactical Exercise - 8th Ed. Army construction
Replies: 43
Views: 35088

Re: Tactical Exercise - 8th Ed. Army construction

2000 points, just friendly to start with but I'll be keen to try it at tourneys if it works: Prince: Dragon Armour, Hand Weapon, Bow of the Seafarer, Enchanted Shield - 224pts. 4 Bolt Throwers at half the price! + extra leadership/combat goodness. Mage: Lvl. 2, Silver Wand, Seerstaff of Saphery, Han...
by Ozymandias
Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:13 am
Forum: 7th ed - Tactics Forum
Topic: Is making horde size units playing into opponents' hands?
Replies: 11
Views: 11717

Re: Is making horde size units playing into opponents' hands?

I forgot Light! Net of Amyntok = Strength test every time a unit wants to do something (e.g. move, shoot etc.) and if they fail D6 S4 hits and they can't do the action! Actually much better vs. horde style armies than the Heavens' "Wind Blast". No wonder GW are limiting total power dice to...
by Ozymandias
Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:07 am
Forum: 7th ed - Tactics Forum
Topic: Is making horde size units playing into opponents' hands?
Replies: 11
Views: 11717

Re: Is making horde size units playing into opponents' hands?

Thanks guys, definitely confirming that 2 units of 20-25 core troops (spearmen/seaguard) is definitely better than 1 horde size unit. As for the minimum 3 unit rule, that is for all units. You don't have to have a minimum of 3 core units. It's just a rule to make sure people don't abuse the ability ...
by Ozymandias
Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:30 am
Forum: 7th ed - Tactics Forum
Topic: Is making horde size units playing into opponents' hands?
Replies: 11
Views: 11717

Is making horde size units playing into opponents' hands?

Obviously having a unit of 50 Seaguard is epic just for the masses of attacks in shooting and combat, but that's one hell of a points sink in a 2k game (w/ shields that's 13 points a model, then Full Command (costing 25 points total) = a unit for 675 points! or spearmen for 475 points). Now with the...