Tactics index
Tactics index
Hopefully this thread will act as an index for all other essential areas of the tactics forum. Its main aim is to organise the various tactics with references so that developing and improving the tactics at ones disposal becomes easier.
Tactics articles
Great Eagle Tips and Tricks
The Art of Speed Play
The Art of Powerplay
Charging for Dummies
Shadow Warriors --- Welcome back to the Meta
High Elves MSU - Observations
The 8e High Elves Handbook
Book of Hoeth: Statistics & Tactics
8th ed. Magic Item Guide
A Beginner's Down and Dirty Guide to Units and Lore Choices
Loriel's blabbering about our core.
List Design and Macro Strategy
There is already a similar thread listing the various common high elf builds and various useful links on list design; http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=35825
The following is a list of development threads of various army styles. While there are many successful builds which are not listed here I tried to keep this only to those which are development threads and involve rationale, tactics and battle reports.
The Cavalry Hammer
Seredains - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33584
Curu Olannon - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=35318
Multiple Small Units
Swordmaster - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=35047
Mage Knights
The order of the mage knights (not strictly a development thread but very useful) - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=32214
Teclis/Book of Hoeth
Collinisimo - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=32653
Teclis tactica page - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=32963
Dragon Mounted Prince Armies
Tethlis the Slayer - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 76&start=0
L.Phantom - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 70#p726370
John Rainbow - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=39174
Unkillable Archmage (various builds)
Brewmaster D - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=35454
The Chariot Prince
Spell Archer - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=35247
The Eagle Prince
JWG20 - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=35759
Shooting lists
Krysith (not a development log as such but a quality tactica) - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=34333
High Elf Unit Tactica (including rationale for taking units and uses)
Characters
Magic Item guide by John Rainbow - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 07#p785207
Spears
Archers
compared to seaguard - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 64&start=0
Hoarde - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=36339
Lothern Seaguard
Razor banner - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=32582
Hoarde - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 6&p=688517
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 9&p=688578
Dragon Princes
unit size/command options - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=34076
Silver Helms
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=34633
compared with dragon princes - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 39&start=0
Ellyrian Reavers
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=36146
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=34877
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=35664
White Lions
Hoarde - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=34800
Phoenix Guard
Swordmasters
Shadow Warriors
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=33177
Tiranoc Chariot
Lion Chariot
Great Eagle
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=33028
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=34728
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=34672
Repeater Bolt Thrower
Spam - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 44&start=0
Compared with archers - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=33733
Lore Selection and Use
General Overview of Lore Selection
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=35829
Fire
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=33931
Beasts
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 07&start=0
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 6&p=723749
Metal
Light
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 57&start=0
Life
compared to shadow - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=32435
Seredain makes a very good tactica on life in his army development log
Heavens
Shadow
Compared to Life - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=32435
JWG20 Also puts forward a very good tactica on shadow in the lore selection overview at the top of this section of the index
Death
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... w=previous
High Magic
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 57&start=0
Enemy Tactica
Those listed in red have not been updated since 7th edition and tactical advice may be out of date
Beastmen
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 69&start=0
Bretonnia
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... w=previous
Daemons of Chaos
http://www.ulthuan.net/archive/viewtopi ... sc&start=0
Dark Elves
http://www.ulthuan.net/archive/viewtopi ... 71e234b0d3
The Empire
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=29265
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=29577
Dwarves
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=37194
Lizardmen
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 13&start=0
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 93&start=0
Ogre Kingdoms
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 1&p=721601
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=36344
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=36914
Orcs and Goblins
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=36120
Skaven
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=31516
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 70&start=0
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=37494
Tomb Kings
Vampire Counts
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=30647
Warriors of Chaos
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 30&start=0
Hellcannons - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=32924
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=36584
Wood Elves
Mathammer
Spell Selection
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 02&start=0
Number of Powerdice
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 12&start=0
Casting rolls
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 43&start=0
Swiftstride
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=34645
Tactics articles
Great Eagle Tips and Tricks
The Art of Speed Play
The Art of Powerplay
Charging for Dummies
Shadow Warriors --- Welcome back to the Meta
High Elves MSU - Observations
The 8e High Elves Handbook
Book of Hoeth: Statistics & Tactics
8th ed. Magic Item Guide
A Beginner's Down and Dirty Guide to Units and Lore Choices
Loriel's blabbering about our core.
List Design and Macro Strategy
There is already a similar thread listing the various common high elf builds and various useful links on list design; http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=35825
The following is a list of development threads of various army styles. While there are many successful builds which are not listed here I tried to keep this only to those which are development threads and involve rationale, tactics and battle reports.
The Cavalry Hammer
Seredains - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33584
Curu Olannon - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=35318
Multiple Small Units
Swordmaster - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=35047
Mage Knights
The order of the mage knights (not strictly a development thread but very useful) - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=32214
Teclis/Book of Hoeth
Collinisimo - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=32653
Teclis tactica page - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=32963
Dragon Mounted Prince Armies
Tethlis the Slayer - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 76&start=0
L.Phantom - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 70#p726370
John Rainbow - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=39174
Unkillable Archmage (various builds)
Brewmaster D - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=35454
The Chariot Prince
Spell Archer - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=35247
The Eagle Prince
JWG20 - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=35759
Shooting lists
Krysith (not a development log as such but a quality tactica) - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=34333
High Elf Unit Tactica (including rationale for taking units and uses)
Characters
Magic Item guide by John Rainbow - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 07#p785207
Spears
Archers
compared to seaguard - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 64&start=0
Hoarde - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=36339
Lothern Seaguard
Razor banner - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=32582
Hoarde - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 6&p=688517
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 9&p=688578
Dragon Princes
unit size/command options - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=34076
Silver Helms
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=34633
compared with dragon princes - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 39&start=0
Ellyrian Reavers
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=36146
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=34877
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=35664
White Lions
Hoarde - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=34800
Phoenix Guard
Swordmasters
Shadow Warriors
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=33177
Tiranoc Chariot
Lion Chariot
Great Eagle
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=33028
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=34728
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=34672
Repeater Bolt Thrower
Spam - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 44&start=0
Compared with archers - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=33733
Lore Selection and Use
General Overview of Lore Selection
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=35829
Fire
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=33931
Beasts
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 07&start=0
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 6&p=723749
Metal
Light
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 57&start=0
Life
compared to shadow - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=32435
Seredain makes a very good tactica on life in his army development log
Heavens
Shadow
Compared to Life - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=32435
JWG20 Also puts forward a very good tactica on shadow in the lore selection overview at the top of this section of the index
Death
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... w=previous
High Magic
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 57&start=0
Enemy Tactica
Those listed in red have not been updated since 7th edition and tactical advice may be out of date
Beastmen
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 69&start=0
Bretonnia
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... w=previous
Daemons of Chaos
http://www.ulthuan.net/archive/viewtopi ... sc&start=0
Dark Elves
http://www.ulthuan.net/archive/viewtopi ... 71e234b0d3
The Empire
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=29265
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=29577
Dwarves
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=37194
Lizardmen
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 13&start=0
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 93&start=0
Ogre Kingdoms
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 1&p=721601
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=36344
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=36914
Orcs and Goblins
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=36120
Skaven
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=31516
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 70&start=0
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=37494
Tomb Kings
Vampire Counts
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=30647
Warriors of Chaos
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 30&start=0
Hellcannons - http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=32924
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=36584
Wood Elves
Mathammer
Spell Selection
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 02&start=0
Number of Powerdice
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 12&start=0
Casting rolls
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 43&start=0
Swiftstride
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=34645
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Re: Tactics index
If people could suggest other tactica to include and reference it that would be appreciated, I've done as much as I'm going to do tonight!
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Re: Tactics index
A while ago I did a tactica for Shadow Warriors http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=33177, If you wanted to add that I'd be thrilled.
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Re: Tactics index
Ok this has to be one of the most vital and awesome posts out there on this forum. Please double sticky it and add 5 stars.
For people like me who play like every 6 months, or even regulars, you get a snap shot of the competitive builds at the moment. So much better then trawling through countless of posts most of which have little value add.
Thanks Andrew_UK.
For people like me who play like every 6 months, or even regulars, you get a snap shot of the competitive builds at the moment. So much better then trawling through countless of posts most of which have little value add.
Thanks Andrew_UK.
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Re: Tactics index
When I created this I intended it to be an living document, that means one which is constantly being updated. I've been away for a while but having come back I notice that enemy of the month has started up again (long overdue as that was immensely useful when facing an army you hadn't come accross in a while!) and I notice that there are now more army blogs than ever before. These are excellent and ought to be shared and listed here but they seem to be spread over tactics, army lists and battle report pages. Could people please pm me or write in this thread if you have anything to add to this index; tactics articles, tactica on lores, tactica on units or army blogs.
Thanks!
Thanks!
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Re: Tactics index
Updated to include the new enemy of the month (well over due it's return and thanks to Pash it's back). There are loads of good development blogs around on this forum, more than I've ever known anywhere, but I haven't been able to keep up with them all quick enough. Post your development blog/recommend someone elses article and where you would like it to be filed in the index ect. I seem to vaguely remember a player on here who had a very unusual list that did amazingly well for him which had nearly entirely core apart from a BotWD BSB and a BoH archmage... and another player had something like 4 characters with both the seafarer bow and the reaver bow all being used... anyone remember who did these?
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Re: Tactics index
Andrew, like I mentioned here:
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=35586
I have a lot of information posted on my blog about High Elves but I could never get any of it transferred here. The mods are all inactive, and has been for the last past year. I'm just trying to help the Ulthuan community with articles written for 8th. Everything in the current Library is old and outdated and I just want to see it updated.
Go ahead and dig through this. You'll find a lot of info there.
I will be making a strategy guide for each Enemy of the Month released too. That should keep the army specific tactics fresh and updated.
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=35586
I have a lot of information posted on my blog about High Elves but I could never get any of it transferred here. The mods are all inactive, and has been for the last past year. I'm just trying to help the Ulthuan community with articles written for 8th. Everything in the current Library is old and outdated and I just want to see it updated.
Go ahead and dig through this. You'll find a lot of info there.
I will be making a strategy guide for each Enemy of the Month released too. That should keep the army specific tactics fresh and updated.
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Re: Tactics index
Hi Andrew!
I was honored by the fact you included my topic about army building but I believe it no longer belongs to the Cavalry Hammer cathegory. If you still consider it worthy it is probably good idea to add Multiple Small (Swordmasters ) Units approach.
Cheers!
I was honored by the fact you included my topic about army building but I believe it no longer belongs to the Cavalry Hammer cathegory. If you still consider it worthy it is probably good idea to add Multiple Small (Swordmasters ) Units approach.
Cheers!
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Re: Tactics index
Hi Andrew. I think this topic belongs in your overview as well: Magic Item Guide
Not sure which category it belongs in, otherwise I would have simply added it. Have a think on it
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Not sure which category it belongs in, otherwise I would have simply added it. Have a think on it
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Re: Tactics index
I tried to keep on top of this a while a go but ended up taking a long while away from the game... I made this so that people who only play occasionally can still get a quick refresher on what the standard builds are and how to approach different armies even if they haven't played for a while. People pretty much like me I guess
I took the time away from the game for a multitude of reasons, part of it being that I really do hate 8th edition (in case you didn't know by now lol) but that doesn't stop me wanting occasional games here and there, as and when.
I have just updated the above to include John Rainbows magic item guide and if people could send through any other tacticas which they believe merit a place on this index I will endeavour to put them up over the next couple of weeks.
Thanks!
I took the time away from the game for a multitude of reasons, part of it being that I really do hate 8th edition (in case you didn't know by now lol) but that doesn't stop me wanting occasional games here and there, as and when.
I have just updated the above to include John Rainbows magic item guide and if people could send through any other tacticas which they believe merit a place on this index I will endeavour to put them up over the next couple of weeks.
Thanks!
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Re: Tactics index
The magic item tactica is now inclusive of the High Elf 8th ed. items.
Re: Tactics index
I noticed a write up on Lore of Metal missing from the Tactics: Lore Selection and Use section and as I have been using it a lot thought I would write up a summary of ideas and uses.
Lore of Metal
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=55473
Lore of Metal
http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=55473
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