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Author:  Prince of Spires [ Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:32 am ]
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SpellArcher wrote:
I'm trying and failing to picture myself painting at speed Rod.

Slow and steady wins the race :) In my experience, unless you've a very speedy painter, having a steady rhythm where you paint a couple of times a week lets you paint more then trying to paint a few times at speed. Which is also why a dedicated painting space or a quick way to set up your painting is very beneficial to your painting progress. It's a lot easier to find 20 minutes a day to get some painting done then to find a block of 2 hours (for me at least). It's about the same amount of painting time per week. But if you miss a session there's a big difference. And it's a lot easier to plan around stuff.

But for 20 min set up time is a big deal. If it takes 5 minutes to set up then that's already a large part of those 20 minutes gone.

I like the goblins. Nothing too fancy. But the basic painting on them just works. They're goblins after all. They should be basic. :) The painting is clean and the blacklining brings out the details nicely. They should look great on a tabletop.

Stone thrower and 2 bolters works all right I think. Though it will probably take some play testing to find out if 2 is enough. And of course it also matters what you would have to drop from the list to bring a third (or another machine).

Rod

Author:  SpellArcher [ Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:57 pm ]
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Prince of Spires wrote:
having a steady rhythm where you paint a couple of times a week lets you paint more then trying to paint a few times at speed.

Yeah, very much so for me. Even if I only get a little done each time, it helps build momentum.

Prince of Spires wrote:
I like the goblins.

Thanks Rod.

:)

Prince of Spires wrote:
Stone thrower and 2 bolters works all right I think. Though it will probably take some play testing to find out if 2 is enough.

I think you're right. The basic idea is to make big flyers and such think twice. But it's probably like fielding a pair of RBT. An opponent has to factor them in but they won't scare him in the way that four might.

Author:  Luna Guardian [ Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:22 am ]
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I always loved the quirky wackiness of the goblins, and the paint job on yours definitely works :)

Author:  SpellArcher [ Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:21 pm ]
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Thanks Luna, currently working on the machine itself.

Author:  SpellArcher [ Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:57 pm ]
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WIP

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Author:  Shannar, Sealord [ Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:00 pm ]
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That's looking nice. You given any thought to basing ideas?

Author:  SpellArcher [ Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:24 pm ]
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Thanks Shannar. I’ve got a base but it’s a bit small. The old 60 x 100 Screaming Bell base would be ideal.

Author:  Luna Guardian [ Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:09 am ]
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If you have leftover bases you could make one, or alternatively cut one from any old cardboard box. Still looks neat though!

Author:  Prince of Spires [ Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:34 am ]
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A good start. The counterweight rock looks Orcy enough while still looking like a rock a bunch of goblins could have picked up.

If I have to make a reasonably large base for something I usually go for plywood and cut that up. It's simple enough to work with for chariot sized bases. And you can actually get it for free if you want. Go to a local DIY shop that cuts wood to size. They discard any left over bits. In my experience, if you ask nicely they will let you take some small pieces for free (or cheap). Get a pile and you're set for a couple of years. Alternatively, you could also buy a sheet. They're pretty cheap for a lot of wood. And you don't need much. Unless you're a very avid terrain builder.

Rod

Author:  SpellArcher [ Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:20 pm ]
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Thanks guys.

I ended up ordering a base from Ebay, we'll see how it turns out.

Author:  SpellArcher [ Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:12 pm ]
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So it's done:

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I'm currently basing my Snotlings. These are metal and GW seems to have included not only a mix of old and really old but also crew figures from both pump wagons! One of those is on order incidentally.

Author:  Shannar, Sealord [ Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:09 pm ]
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Looks good, and I can't wait to see the snotlings.

Author:  Prince of Spires [ Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:41 am ]
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SpellArcher wrote:
GW seems to have included not only a mix of old and really old but also crew figures from both pump wagons

Seems like even GW thinks size matters, and that these guys are too small to care about much ;) Looking forward to the pump wagon as well. What configuration are you planning for it?

And the lobber looks great. I think I've said this before, but your painting style suits these very well. It's clean and basic in a positive way. No frills but solid and down to earth. Which is pretty much goblins (if you forget about the drug induced maniacs they have that is...).

Rod

Author:  SpellArcher [ Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:00 pm ]
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Thanks guys.

Prince of Spires wrote:
I think I've said this before, but your painting style suits these very well. It's clean and basic in a positive way. No frills but solid and down to earth.

I’m hoping this will pay off when the whole army comes together Rod.

Prince of Spires wrote:
Looking forward to the pump wagon as well. What configuration are you planning for it?

Giant Explodin’ Spores (first Impact Hits in game ignore armour) is very hard to overlook. Spiky Roller (+1 Strength to all Impact Hits) is pretty juicy too.

Shannar, Sealord wrote:
I can't wait to see the snotlings.

Here’s a taster Shannar:

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Author:  Shannar, Sealord [ Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:07 pm ]
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They've made so many over they years, it's always fun to see what ones come up.

Author:  SpellArcher [ Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:50 pm ]
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I also got the wizard but chose not to use him here.

Author:  Prince of Spires [ Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:18 am ]
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SpellArcher wrote:
I also got the wizard but chose not to use him here.

They made a snotling wizard? Cool.

SpellArcher wrote:
Prince of Spires wrote:
Looking forward to the pump wagon as well. What configuration are you planning for it?

Giant Explodin’ Spores (first Impact Hits in game ignore armour) is very hard to overlook. Spiky Roller (+1 Strength to all Impact Hits) is pretty juicy too.

I think a lot of the options are pretty nice on them, although flappas is something you'd probably only bring if you have 5 extra points or a very fast list you need to keep up with. The main issue with the options is that they can get expensive fast. Relatively speaking of course. At 45pts, they're expendable. Fully upgraded at 90pts not so much (at this point it would make more sense to just bring two of them ;) ). I think taking one option on them is a good idea. Both giant exploding spores and spiky Roller add a lot to the pump wagon I think. With either of them it packs a much bigger punch in combat. They difference is whether you want the first hit to really hurt or all hits to hurt a bit more.

It also probably depends on what you expect to run in to most. At S5, a lot of lightly armoured units (like elves) will have little to no armour save left. But if you regularly run into heavily armoured units like knights or monstrous cavalry you need to deal with then spores are the way to go.

Rod

Author:  SpellArcher [ Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:58 pm ]
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Prince of Spires wrote:
It also probably depends on what you expect to run in to most. At S5, a lot of lightly armoured units (like elves) will have little to no armour save left. But if you regularly run into heavily armoured units like knights or monstrous cavalry you need to deal with then spores are the way to go.

Good point Rod. Also, the army is full of units that roger armour (Troll Vomit, Artillery, Characters etc.) so S5 might be the better option. The thought of running over Skullcrushers is a happy one though! As it happens I'm actually playing some Warhammer on Sunday! I have the Pump Wagon now but there was no way it was getting painted in time. So the 2000pt list looks like this:


Black Orc Warlord, 4+ Ward Armour, MR 3, Ironcurse Icon
Orc Lvl 4, 4+ Ward, Crown of Command, Power Stone

Black Orc BSB, 2+ Armour, Luckstone
Orc Lvl 2, 6+ Ward, Dispel Scroll

26 Big'Uns, Spears, Shields, Full Command, Razor Standard
20 Gobbos, Shortbows, Full Command
5 Wolf Riders, Shortbows, Musician

2 Snotling Bases
2 Snotling Bases
Spear Chukka
Spear Chukka

8 Stone Trolls
Rock Lobber

Snotlings:

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Author:  Shannar, Sealord [ Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:01 pm ]
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ohh, and army shot would be great.

Author:  Prince of Spires [ Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:13 am ]
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Shannar, Sealord wrote:
ohh, and army shot would be great.

+1

Let us know how the army performed. It should be a fun list, with something meaningful happening in each phase. It has a lot of tools to deal with different things across the table.

The main thing I'm wondering about the list is if it isn't better to change one of the shamans into a goblin. I like the little waaagh better then the big waaagh in most cases I think. At least I think it doesn't pay off to have 6 lvl's of magic invested in it. If you're keen on the big waaagh then I would keep the lvl 4 on it. The signature spell isn't good enough on its own to justify giving it to a lvl 2. So I would move the lvl 2 to the little waaagh. The signature spell has a lot more utility and the only spell you really want to swap out would be Night Shroud (though Curse can be a bit hit or miss I think).

Rod

Author:  RE.Lee [ Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:40 pm ]
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Those little dudes! :lol:

Haven't fought O&G since early 6th edition...

Author:  SpellArcher [ Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:50 pm ]
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Well the event got cancelled, sad face. I do have another next month though and I was able to pick up the old metal Orcs I needed to complete my unit. Ebay was proving unfruitful.

Prince of Spires wrote:
The main thing I'm wondering about the list is if it isn't better to change one of the shamans into a goblin. I like the little waaagh better then the big waaagh in most cases I think. At least I think it doesn't pay off to have 6 lvl's of magic invested in it. If you're keen on the big waaagh then I would keep the lvl 4 on it. The signature spell isn't good enough on its own to justify giving it to a lvl 2. So I would move the lvl 2 to the little waaagh. The signature spell has a lot more utility and the only spell you really want to swap out would be Night Shroud (though Curse can be a bit hit or miss I think).

Tactically you're probably right Rod. My priority at the moment though with the new army is to keep things simple. Only one Lore to think about. Doubling up also improves spell selection for the Lvl 4. Spamming Foot of Gork is unimaginative but it has it's attractions. The Lvl 2 turns a 90% chance of it into almost 100.

RE.Lee wrote:
Haven't fought O&G since early 6th edition...

Yeah, they kind of slipped under my radar too RE.

Shannar, Sealord wrote:
ohh, and army shot would be great.

Here we are Shannar, sort of...

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Author:  Prince of Spires [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:45 am ]
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The army is shaping up nicely. Those trolls are just lovely. And I always really like squigs. So it's great seeing one in there. Looking forward to see how it performs.

Good point on the lore of course. Knowledge of the list is more important in the end then having more tools in there. And O&G have enough wacky rules to keep in mind already. So sticking with one thing and knowing what it does is probably better then adding in more things to keep in mind.

Rod

Author:  SpellArcher [ Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:34 pm ]
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Prince of Spires wrote:
The army is shaping up nicely. Those trolls are just lovely. And I always really like squigs. So it's great seeing one in there. Looking forward to see how it performs.

Thanks Rod. I doubt it'll be finished in time for next month's event but I expect to make some progress.

Prince of Spires wrote:
Good point on the lore of course. Knowledge of the list is more important in the end then having more tools in there. And O&G have enough wacky rules to keep in mind already. So sticking with one thing and knowing what it does is probably better then adding in more things to keep in mind.

I also have two orc shaman models and no goblins. Even if I did, those archers are not the best bunker I fear.

The revised orc block including the just-acquired guys:

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Author:  Prince of Spires [ Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:21 am ]
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SpellArcher wrote:
The revised orc block including the just-acquired guys:

WAAAAAGH! Unruly and menacing, and looking as dangerous to themselves as the look to others. Nice. Looking forward to seeing them painted.

SpellArcher wrote:
I doubt it'll be finished in time for next month's event but I expect to make some progress.

Slow and steady wins the race :)

Rod

Author:  SpellArcher [ Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:38 pm ]
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Prince of Spires wrote:
Nice

Thanks Rod.

Prince of Spires wrote:
Looking forward to seeing them painted.

Me too! I think I'm going to finish the Trolls first though. Just bought some magic cards and some modular movement trays off eBay, so will be busy making some proper grassy trays too.

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Author:  Shannar, Sealord [ Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:30 pm ]
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Another classic troll. I'm excited about how it's going to look already.

Author:  SpellArcher [ Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:15 pm ]
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Shannar, Sealord wrote:
Another classic troll

Those models just capture something Shannar. Movement trays have arrived, now they need making!

Author:  SpellArcher [ Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:36 pm ]
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So I made a tray for the Wolf Riders:

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Author:  RE.Lee [ Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:13 am ]
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A perfect fit!

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