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Oh these are nice. Both the paint job and the models. I'm very impressed with the variety of these stone trolls that you've managed to put together.


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Shannar, Sealord wrote:
Oh these are nice.

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They rocks!

Thanks guys!

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If you're running a very mobile army who spreads out then the LD of individual units becomes a lot more important then if you're running a more compact and defensive army. Then you have a much easier time to stay in general and / or BSB range. It's one of the reasons I like Phoenix Guard. With their LD9 they can take care of themselves if the BSB / General is elsewhere.

I always think of Seredain’s army with General & BSB in Silver Helms. These were wide-ranging but he often managed to keep them in range of the supporting elite infantry.

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Overall I was fairly happy with how the army did at the tournament. It was pretty solid and two wins out of three wasn’t bad. I felt I was starting to turn the screw in game one when we ran out of time. Game two I lost my left wing but stopped the main attack in the centre cold. Game three was starting to go south but I had enough left to hold it to a minor loss. I’m going to break down how I felt the different bits of the army performed.

Daemons

These aren’t a long-term part of the army I feel. They performed well, although the Flamers flopped a little. The Skillcannon was targeted for destruction in game two but saw off Monstrous Cavalry in game one. I was amazed how quickly the Beasts died in game two but they softened up the enemy main block nicely for my other units. In game three they basically kept me in the game. Their mobile threat and resilience is a huge asset.

Manglers

As I put it during game two. "I’ve never fought with these before. I’m never fighting without them again!" They either keep the enemy back or simply chew up a direct attack (as in game two). Sometimes they just die but they’re so cheap. Not exactly hard to use either.

Trolls

Their massed attacks did great in game two. 24 Strength 5 (plus Stomps). In game three though they suffered a bad combat round and broke, as in game two at Milton Keynes. Although it would lose some hitting power I’m toying with the idea of going three deep to preserve Steadfast, possibly adding a ninth troll. This would also be slightly more maneouverable. Of course I can also address this issue in Core.

Core

Getting Standard of Discipline on the Big’Uns for Leadership 10 is key. They did OK, I’m otherwise happy with this unit. The Arrer Boyz failed Animosity twice, altogether too aggressive for their own good. But I love the models and I’m not sure I’ve got a great alternative. At 2000pts I only need to go with 5 basic for the Wolf Riders. The bigger unit with Gitilla didn’t achieve a whole lot really. That could be because of the enemies faced, I might give them another run out.

Others

The bolt shooters were a bit hit and miss but they did kill the Water Dragon. The fighting characters struggled to cut through the Daemonettes but they’re designed to cut through Toughness and armour so I guess that was to be expected. The Cascade in game three showed the dangers of only bringing a single Shaman but it does keep things simple and the best reason for another wizard is to carry the Scroll.

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For the price they are amazing. I think it's often a misjudgement that a unit "has to make its points back" in kills to be worth taking. But already forcing your opponent to adjust their movement and spend time taking it out makes them very valuable. The fact that under the right circumstances they can also kill a lot of stuff is just a great bonus.

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I think they are a must in your list. You need the massive amount of medium-high S attacks to deal with some of the stuff you'll face. O&G have other options, but they would really change your list into something different.

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They are of course a bit of a consequence of the specific comp of this tournament as well. Some of it complements your army nicely I think. Especially the Skill canon offers some high S shooting, which is very valuable.

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You're just spoiled with the high accuracy shooting options of other races ;) I think the bolt throwers are just too unreliable to be worth taking as one or two. With at best a 50% chance to hit anything and the low S (for a warmachine) and only D3 wounds they are just not threatening enough to keep big stuff honest. I would expose a dragon to them if it would offer me some benefit in a next turn without hesitation, something I wouldn't do vs a canon. If you have 4 or more on the table on the other hand, it becomes different.

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But already forcing your opponent to adjust their movement and spend time taking it out makes them very valuable.

Watching one chew up a Keeper of Secrets was awesome Rod. They’re so good to stop an enemy just running straight over you.

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I think they are a must in your list. You need the massive amount of medium-high S attacks to deal with some of the stuff you'll face. O&G have other options, but they would really change your list into something different.

I agree completely. I actually think Monstrous Infantry are great for game balance, neither too good nor too weak. S5 is essential but the armour-ignoring Vomit option is a brilliant complement. Regen is just a 4+ Ward vs the vast majority of things. Yes Flaming Attacks and Initiative 1 are issues but at 35pts per model, numbers help to soak casualties up. I’m even considering a second unit.

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I would expose a dragon to them if it would offer me some benefit in a next turn without hesitation, something I wouldn't do vs a canon.

Yeah, I really need to work out where I’m going with the artillery.

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Yeah, I really need to work out where I’m going with the artillery.

I'm interested to see what you come up with. A doomdiver is an obvious choice of course, though it doesn't really scare big monsters all that much. Maybe just more spear chukkas. You can take up to 6 after all...

Of course, it also depends a bit on what else you'll bring. Assuming you don't have the demons in the list, you have some points left over to play with, and a couple of gaps that need to be filled, the beasts are a hard hitting anvil and the skillcanon is a great long distance threat.

There's things like a giant, pump wagons or even just regular trolls. I'm not too sure about the arachnarok, though it is a great model, which is reason enough to bring one of course ;)

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Next up are the Arrer Boyz. They’re Core of course so I’ll have a little time to think over how I build from there.

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Lovely. I think they'll fit nicely with the rest of the army.

What are the models? They're a lot smaller then the GW ones ;)

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Prince of Spires wrote:
Lovely. I think they'll fit nicely with the rest of the army.

Thanks Rod.

:)

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What are the models?

They are the Kev Adams Gobbla, Skarsnik’s pal!

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He's cute in a menacing sort of way. Though he also looks like the effect I'm expecting him to have on the game. Weak and small. ;)

How long does it take you to get one model done? The paint scheme looks fairly simple but effective.

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Prince of Spires wrote:
He's cute in a menacing sort of way.

It’s all about the helmet Rod, I just love it.

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How long does it take you to get one model done? The paint scheme looks fairly simple but effective.

Couple of hours maybe? Though I should probably get a better result for that time investment! I’m hoping for a pleasing effect en masse.

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He's cute in a menacing sort of way.

It’s all about the helmet Rod, I just love it.

I agree. It really makes the model. Of course, it's also one of the few elements on the model, so that's its job as well. But it gives him an "I found this on a battlefield looting other bodies and it almost fits" kind of look. It's much more effective to give him character then a whole host of meaningless details would be.
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I think you'll manage this just fine.

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I agree. It really makes the model. Of course, it's also one of the few elements on the model, so that's its job as well. But it gives him an "I found this on a battlefield looting other bodies and it almost fits" kind of look. It's much more effective to give him character then a whole host of meaningless details would be.

Wait til you see the rest of the unit Rod!

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What Santa brought me:

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Santa must like you ;)

It does answer the question "how many spiky bits can you fit on a single model?" ;)

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Prince of Spires wrote:
how many spiky bits can you fit on a single model?"

In the 1980’s Rod, quite a few! A surprising lacks of skulls for a GW model though.

:)

Today this birthday gift, by kind courtesy of Kispal:

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It’s a collection of various articles from the magazine’s history. Nice!

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That looks pretty great. I liked White Dwarf (even though it was a bit over the top and "look at how amazing our models are") before they changed to the new format. I miss it as a monthly hobby fix (and even the excitement every couple of months as pictures of new models leaked...), but I just can't bring myself to buy the new one. Last time I looked at it there was just no content at all in there.

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Yeah, I don’t play any of GW’s current games so the modern WD is of limited interest to me.

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That looks pretty great. I liked White Dwarf (even though it was a bit over the top and "look at how amazing our models are") before they changed to the new format. I miss it as a monthly hobby fix (and even the excitement every couple of months as pictures of new models leaked...), but I just can't bring myself to buy the new one. Last time I looked at it there was just no content at all in there.

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I still keep my collection from 209 to 397 tucked away in a safe space and I tend to browse some older numbers for inspiration.

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I still keep my collection from 209 to 397 tucked away in a safe space and I tend to browse some older numbers for inspiration.

Some of my favourite issues were in the 200’s.

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Very nice. I always forget to check in the 8th edition section- I need to stop doing that. Does it have a crew? I very much enjoyed painting mine, it's near peak Kev Adams. I like the arrer boys too. You've got some proper models going here.


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Does it have a crew?

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perfection. If you also have the wheel scythes I might have to be a little jealous. Though I'd hate to crew the thing if it had giant blades attached to the wheels.

Looking at your stuff makes me realize that Orctober might be to far away, I might have to sneak a few greenskins in. The kids have been complaining about the femirs not being painted in heroquest. But we are almost done with Kellors Keep, and from what I remember Return of the Witch King really doesn't require many.


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Shannar, Sealord wrote:
If you also have the wheel scythes

Sadly not.

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These rock. Take a look at this:

https://mrsaturdaysmumblings.blogspot.c ... n.html?m=1

Edit: The above link isn't working. Dave made an excellent thread on CDO, unfortunately the pics are watermarked (?) courtesy of Photobucket:

http://www.chaos-dwarfs.com/forum/showt ... 762&page=1

Found an unobscured photo of the Meargh:

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The crew is just awesome. They look very nice. Santa must really like you ;)

As for the femir, I agree with the kids. They've got to be painted, even if they'll only show up a couple of times. (though I spend many an hour playing with a completely unpainted Heroquest set and didn't mind in the slightest ;) )

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If you also have the wheel scythes

Sadly not.


Those seem to be quite commonly lost. Back when I was searching for one of these I'd say about 1/10 actually still had them, and never at a price that I was willing to pay.

I have seen those fimirs, and I'm a fan. Maybe someday when the elves and goblins and Mordheim are all painted. HA.


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The crew is just awesome.

As Shannar said Rod, Kev Adams was really in the groove here.

Shannar, Sealord wrote:
Those seem to be quite commonly lost.

Luckily I can tolerate this. Aesthetically I find Lead Belcher OK without them.

Shannar, Sealord wrote:
I have seen those fimirs, and I'm a fan.

I love Dave’s Meargh especially. From the 80’s range I believe.

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A little progress before the Lockdown:

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