Attempt at a Redux.

[Paradus]

Greetings
I thought I would have a go at amending our current book since most of us can agree its not as good as it should be.

Here is what I have done.

1. Army composition same as other army books.

2. Archmages and Mages can take upto 2 arcane items instead of 1.

3. Princes and Nobles can purchase White Lion Cloaks for +4/6pts respectively. The Star dragon costs 400pts.

4. Dragon mages have a 25pt reduction.

5. Spearelves cost 8pts and buy heavy armour for +2 pts.

6. Archers cost 10pts, loose SOA and can fire in two ranks.

7. Ellyrion Reavers are a Core choice but don't count towards the minimum. They cost 15pts and can get a bow for +2pts.

8. Silver Helms are Ws5 and can take upto a 25pt magic Banner.

9. Shadow Warriors are Bs 5 and come with 2 hand weapons.

10. Dragon Princes moved to Rare

11. RBT crew loose SOA.

12. Magic items
-Blade of Leaping Gold (Same but also gets +1 to hit and 10pts cheaper)
-Sword of Hoeth (Same but also gets a -2 to armour saves and 5pts cheaper)
-Sword of Battle and Stricking are both 15pts.
-Foe bane (Same but +1 str)
-Armour of Heroes 20pts.
-Golden Shield 25pts.
-Mask of the Merlord (may be combinded with other armour)
-Shadow Armour 15pts.
-Gauntlets 25pts.
-Amulet of Fire 15pts.
-Golden Crown 25pts.
-Sacred Incense 25pts.
-Healing Potion 35pts.
-The Skeinsliver (Change effect to the HE player gets to choose who gets the first turn)
-Radiant Gem of Hoeth 35pts.
-Nullstone 75pts.
-Gem of Sunfire (Not one use only and +10pts.)
-Starwood Staff 30pts.
-Banner of World Dragon 50pts.
-Battle Banner 70pts.

There we go.

So what do you think?

cheers.

[Prince_Asuryan]

Not to be brash or rude, but several things immediately spring to mind:

If you're gonna redux the book, you need to do more than this - this looks like a 5 minute rush job, especially compared to some other efforts around:

For example, the mask of the merlord can already be combined with armour. Rare DP's means they won't be taken. Still no reason to take SH.

Have you playtested this. At all?

The book doesn't need a redux, as it works very well without being too overpowered. It strikes me that you just lose to others and want the book to be better.

Sorry, but as a 'redux' this is sorely lacking.

I personally think the book is fine, but if you're gonna try and change it, at least make it look like you're thinking carefully about it:

http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=28976

http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=30763

http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=30067

http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=29869

four ideas, on the first page, all well thought out and (at least) two of them playtested.

[WarpPhoenix]

I dont like all these ideas that say we should lose ASF on our troops, its no worse than Hatred on everything or having a whole army that causes fear and cant be run down,

I always get grumpy when people try to take it away from me ;p

[Hama2]

High Elves realy are fine. There are only two small things we changed in my warhammer playing group.

Archers cost 9 points. can be upgraded with light armour 1pts and shield 1pts.
This was done comparing them to Dark elf crossbowman

Shadow warriors, point cost increased by 1. BS 5 instead of 4. Option to carry two hand weapons for 1pts
Comparing them to shades.

Thats all the changes to high elves we use and i can win with them just fine.

Instead of trying to changes high elves themself i think you should consider making a faction army. This way you can change the high elves how you see fit (keeping their lore in mind tho). Like i did with the Silver Covenant. check the post, its an idea.