HE MSU in the Old World - Game 1 - 2000 vs Warriors of Chaos - 2024/03/04
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:14 pm
Greetings!
In this topic I discuss army lists I use in my games. I started with cavalry prince army inspired by Seredain. However, after some time I switched to Multiple Small Units concept and I continue with it since then. Below you will have a list of all my battle reports and if you click any link it will direct you to the battle report from that particular game.
And yet there is another change. After the end of 8th edition I was very hopeful for 9th Age, fan based continuation of Warhammer Fantasy Battle. After initial enthusiasm, the more I played that game and the more I observed the direction the changes take place, the more I realized it is not what I hoped it could evolve to. Sadly, I will not continue with playing games and writing battle reports with that set. It is possible that I will come back to it once it is more stable and mature. But I remain very skeptical about it. I do hope the project will be successful for those who create it and those who like the direction it is heading.
That left me with Kings of War at the moment and fortunately I like the system. It is young in comparison but there are many things I like about it and I hope you will appreciate the reports from this game too.
Enjoy!
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Kings of War
The Valley of Kings 4
Battle 65 (2017/11/11) - 1200 vs Elves
Battle 64 (2017/11/08) - 1200 vs Night Stalkers
Battle 63 (2017/11/07) - 1200 vs Undead
Battle 62 (2017/11/04) - 1200 vs Forces of the Abyss
Battle 61 (2017/11/01) - 1200 vs Elves
Edge of the Abyss
Battle 60 (2017/09/27) - 2000 vs Empire of Dust
Battle 59 (2017/09/24) - 2000 vs Night Stalkers
Battle 58 (2017/09/15) -2000 vs Undead
Battle 57 (2017/09/12) - 2000 vs Orcs
Battle 56 (2017/09/10) - 2000 vs Twilight Kin
Valley of Kings 3.1
Battle 55 (2017/09/07) - 2000 vs Trident Realms
Battle 54 (2017/09/02) - 2000 vs Forces of Basilea
Battle 53 (2017/08/31) - 2000 vs Ogres
Battle 52 (2017/08/26) - 2000 vs Dwarfs
KoW Games
Battle 10 (2015/12/05) - 2000 vs Forces of Abyss
Battle 9 (2015/11/27) - 2000 vs Salamanders
Battle 8 (2015/11/18) - 2000 vs Forces of Abyss
Battle 7 (2015/11/12) - 2000 vs Forces of Abyss
Battle 6 (2015/11/05) - 2000 vs Basileans
Battle 5 (2015/11/02) - 2000 vs Orcs
Battle 4 (2015/10/25) - 2000 vs Basileans
Battle 3 (2015/10/23) - 2000 vs Orcs
Battle 2 (2015/09/20) - 2000 vs Empire of Dust
Battle 1 (2015/09/10) - 2000 vs Empire of Dust
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9th Age
Battle 167 (2015/10/09) - 2400 vs Reptilians
Battle 166 (2015/10/09) - 2400 vs Dark Elves
Battle 165 (2015/09/15) - 2400 vs Elves of Nature
Battle 164 (2015/09/15) - 2400 vs High Elves
Battle 163 (2015/09/02) - 2400 vs Wood Elves
8th Edition Continues
Battle 162 (2015/08/09) - 2400 vs High Elves
Battle 161 (2015/07/27) - 2500 vs Skaven
Battle 161 (2015/07/27) - 2500 vs Skaven
Battle 160 (2015/07/16) - 2400 vs Tomb Kings
Battle 159 (2015/06/27) - 2400 vs Beastmen
Battle 158 (2015/06/13) - 2400 vs Star Dragon
Battle 157 (2015/06/09) - 2700 vs Empire
Battle 156 (2015/05/25) - 2400 vs High Elves
CanCon 2015
Battle 155 (2015/03/28) - Battle 8 - 2400 vs Ogre Kingdoms
Battle 154 (2015/03/23) - Battle 7 - 2400 vs Beastmen
Battle 153 (2015/03/20) - Battle 6 - 2400 vs Lizardmen
Battle 152 (2015/03/13) - Battle 5 - 2400 vs Orcs & Goblins
Battle 151 (2015/03/06) - Battle 4 - 2400 vs Dark Elves
Battle 150 (2015/02/23) - Battle 3 - 2400 vs Warriors of Chaos
Battle 149 (2015/02/12) - Battle 2 - 2400 vs High Elves
Battle 148 (2015/02/02) - Battle 1 - 2400 vs High Elves
MiniMe 2014
Battle 147 (2014/12/31) - Battle 5 - 2400 vs Vampire Counts
Battle 146 (2014/12/27) - Battle 4 - 2400 vs Bretonnia
Battle 145 (2014/12/24) - Battle 3 - 2400 vs High Elves
Battle 144 (2014/12/17) - Battle 2 - 2400 vs Lizardmen
Battle 143 (2014/12/12) - Battle 1 - 2400 vs Vampire Counts
Yet another chapter!
Battle 142 (2014/10/09) - 2500 vs Empire
Battle 141 (2014/09/28) - 2400 vs Strigoi King
Battle 140 (2014/09/13) - 2400 vs Star Dragon
Battle 139 (2014/08/31) - 2500 vs Lizardmen
Battle 138 (2014/08/25) - 2400 vs Dwarves
Battle 137 (2014/08/20) - 2400 vs Ogre Kingdoms
Battle 136 (2014/08/02) - 2500 vs Empire
Battle 135 (2014/07/30) - 2400 vs High Elves
Battle 134 (2014/07/17) - 2500 vs Double Wyvern - a rematch
Battle 133 (2014/07/02) - 2500 vs Double Wyvern
ANUWTF 2014
Battle 132 (2014/06/07) - Battle 5 - 2400 vs Easterlings of Chaos
Battle 131 (2014/05/28) - Battle 4 - 2400 vs Monsters of Chaos
Battle 130 (2014/05/20) - Battle 3 - 2400 vs Warriors of Tzeentch
Battle 129 (2014/05/13) - Battle 2 - 2400 vs Beastmen
Battle 128 (2014/05/11) - Battle 1 - 2400 vs Dwarves
UB game
Battle 127 (2014/04/11) - 2400 vs Monsters of Chaos
CanCon 2014
Battle 126 (2014/03/25) - Game 8 - 2400 vs High Elves
Battle 125 (2014/03/20) - Game 7 - 2400 vs Dwarves
Battle 124 (2014/03/11) - Game 6 - 2400 vs Dwarves
Battle 123 (2014/03/02) - Game 5 - 2400 vs Lizardmen
Battle 122 (2014/02/22) - Game 4 - 2400 vs Empire
Battle 121 (2014/02/13) - Game 3 - 2400 vs Wood Elves
Battle 120 (2014/02/09) - Game 2 - 2400 vs Lizardmen
Battle 119 (2014/02/03) - Game 1 - 2400 vs Warriors of Chaos
Hammer of Dave 2
Battle 118 (2014/01/28) - Game 5 - 2400 vs Lizardmen
Battle 117 (2014/01/23) - Game 4 - 2400 vs Dwarves
Battle 116 (2014/01/21) - Game 3 - 2400 vs Bretonnia
Battle 115 (2014/01/17) - Game 2 - 2400 vs Daemons of Chaos
Battle 114 (2014/01/14) - Game 1 - 2400 vs Dark Elves
Friendly 2500
Battle 113 (2014/01/07) - 2500 vs. Empire
Australian Masters - 2013
Battle 112 (2013/12/31) - Battle 6 - 2400 vs. Empire
Battle 111 (2013/12/26) - Battle 5 - 2400 vs. Warriors of Chaos
Battle 110 (2013/12/18) - Battle 4 - 2400 Vampire Counts vs. Lizardmen
Battle 109 (2013/12/13) - Battle 3 - 2400 High Elves vs. Dwarves
Battle 108 (2013/12/09) - Battle 2 - 2400 vs. Vampire Counts
Battle 107 (2013/12/04) - Battle 1 - 2400 vs. High Elves
Castle Assault - 2013
Battle 106 (2013/11/25) - Battle 5 - 2400 vs. Lizardmen
Battle 105 (2013/11/10) - Battle 4 - 2400 vs. Warriors of Chaos
Battle 104 (2013/11/04) - Battle 3 - 2400 vs. High Elves
Battle 103 (2013/10/29) - Battle 2 - 2400 vs. Lizardmen
Battle 102 (2013/10/23) - Battle 1 - 2400 vs. Beastmen of Chaos
ConVic - 2013
Battle 101 (2013/08/03) - Battle 6 - 2400 vs. Daemons of Chaos
Battle 100 (2013/07/31) - Battle 5 - 2400 vs. Warriors of Chaos
Battle 99 (2013/07/24) - Battle 4 - 2400 vs. Ard Boyz
Battle 98 (2013/07/24) - Battle 3 - 2400 vs. Khorne Daemons
Battle 97 (2013/07/21) - Battle 2 - 2400 vs. Tzeentch Warriors
Battle 96 (2013/07/19) - Battle 1 - 2400 vs. Dark Elves
New Beginnings
Battle 95 (2013/06/30) - 2400 vs. Daemons of Chaos
Battle 94 (2013/06/26) - 2400 vs. Warriors of Chaos
Battle 93 (2013/06/20) - 2400 vs. Monsters of Chaos
Battle 92 (2013/06/17) - 2400 vs. Wood Elves
Battle 91 (2013/05/20) - 2400 vs. Vampire Counts
ANUWTF
Battle 90 (2013/05/12) - Battle 6 - 2500 vs. Dwarves
Battle 89 (2013/05/04) - Battle 5 - 2500 vs. Orcs & Goblins
Battle 88 (2013/04/28) - Battle 4 - 2500 vs. High Elves
Battle 87 (2013/04/23) - Battle 3 - 2500 vs. Warriors of Chaos
Battle 86 (2013/04/19) - Battle 2 - 2500 vs. Skaven
Battle 85 (2013/04/16) - Battle 1 - 2500 vs. High Elves
Heavy Metal - part 2
Battle 84 (2013/04/10) - 2500 vs. Monsters of Chaos
QNK Joust 9.0
Battle 83 (2013/04/02) - Battle 3 - 2400 vs. Beastmen
Battle 82 (2013/03/28) - Battle 2 - 2400 vs. Empire
Battle 81 (2013/03/25) - Battle 1 - 2400 vs. High Elves
Heavy Metal
Battle 80 (2013/02/28) - 3000 vs. Strigoi
CanCon 2013
Battle 79 (2013/02/28) - Battle 8 - 2400 vs. Empire
Battle 78 (2013/02/23) - Battle 7 - 2400 vs. Warriors of Chaos
Battle 77 (2013/02/20) - Battle 6 - 2400 vs. Dark Elves
Battle 76 (2013/02/17) - Battle 5 - 2400 vs. Chaos Dwarves
Battle 75 (2013/02/13) - Battle 4 - 2400 vs. Lizardmen
Battle 74 (2013/02/06) - Battle 3 - 2400 vs. Wood Elves
Battle 73 (2013/02/03) - Battle 2 - 2400 vs. Empire
Battle 72 (2013/01/28) - Battle 1 - 2400 vs. Dwarves
The Road to CanCon 2013
Battle 71 (2013/01/28) - 2400 vs. Dark Elves
Battle 70 (2013/01/22) - 2400 vs. Dark Elves
Battle 69 (2013/01/20) - 2400 vs. Empire
Battle 68 (2012/12/29) - 2400 vs. Lizardmen
Battle 67 (2012/12/29) - 2400 vs. Skaven
Battle 66 (2012/12/09) - 2400 vs. Skaven
The Hammer of Dave
Battle 65 (2012/11/24) - Battle 05 - 2400 vs. Bretonnia
Battle 63 (2012/11/17) - Battle 04 - 2400 vs. Vampire Counts
Battle 62 (2012/11/15) - Battle 03 - 2400 vs. Daemons
Battle 61 (2012/11/10) - Battle 02 - 2400 vs. Lizardmen
Battle 60 (2012/11/07) - Battle 01 - 2400 vs. Dark Elves
MSU HE - next generation
Battle 59 (2012/10/07) - 2500 vs. Dark Elves
Battle 58 (2012/10/07) - 2500 vs. High Elves
Battle 57 (2012/09/23) - 2500 vs. Vampire Counts
Battle 56 (2012/09/17) - 2500 vs. 2400 Bretonnia (ETC)
Battle 55 (2012/09/09) - 2500 vs. Dwarves
Battle 54 (2012/07/04) - 2500 vs. MSU Empire
Battle 53 (2012/07/01) - 2500 vs. Dwarves
Wintercon 2012
Battle 52 (2012/06/27) - Battle 08 - 2500 vs. High Elves
Battle 51 (2012/06/25) - Battle 07 - 2500 vs. Khorne Warriors
Battle 50 (2012/06/23) - Battle 06 - 2500 vs. Ogre Kingdoms
Battle 49 (2012/06/21) - Battle 05 - 2500 vs. Dwarves
Battle 48 (2012/06/19) - Battle 04 - 2500 vs. Empire
Battle 47 (2012/06/16) - Battle 03 - 2500 vs. Tomb Kings
Battle 46 (2012/06/14) - Battle 02 - 2500 vs. High Elves
Battle 45 (2012/06/12) - Battle 01 - 2500 vs. Bretonnia
MSU HE - the journey continues
Battle 44 (2012/05/18) - 2500 vs. Vampire Counts
Battle 43 (2012/05/06) - 2500 vs. Daemons of Chaos with Blood Thirster
Battle 42 (2012/04/21) - 2500 vs. Beasts of Chaos
Battle 41 (2012/04/14) - 2500 vs. All Goblins
Battle 40 (2012/03/24) - 2500 vs. MSU Daemons of Chaos
Battle 39 (2012/03/17) - 2500 vs. Beasts of Chaos
Battle 38 (2012/03/11) - 2500 vs. MSU Dwarves
Battle 37 (2012/02/29) - 2500 vs. MSU Dwarves
Battle 36 (2012/02/26) - 2500 vs. Daemons of Chaos
CanCon 2012
Battle 35 (2012/02/12) - 2400 vs. Tomb Kings - Battle 8
Battle 34 (2012/02/11) - 2400 vs. Skaven - Battle 7
Battle 33 (2012/02/07) - 2400 vs. Warriors of Chaos - Battle 6
Battle 32 (2012/02/05) - 2400 vs. Warriors of Chaos - Battle 5
Battle 31 (2012/02/03) - 2400 vs. Ogre Kingdoms - Battle 4
Battle 30 (2012/02/02) - 2400 vs. High Elves - Battle 3
Battle 29 (2012/02/01) - 2400 vs. Lizardmen - Battle 2
Battle 28 (2012/01/30) - 2400 vs. High Elves - Battle 1
CanCon 2012 Preparation
Battle 27 (2012/01/22) - 2400 vs. Skaven
Battle 26 (2012/01/07) - 2400 vs. Bretonnia
Battle 25 (2011/12/23) - 2400 vs. Skaven
Battle 24 (2011/12/17) - 2400 vs. Beastmen
Battle 23 (2011/12/10) - 2400 vs. Daemons of Chaos
Battle 22 (2011/11/27) - 2400 vs. Daemons of Chaos
Battle 21 (2011/11/19) - 2400 vs. Daemons of Chaos
Battle 20 (2011/11/12) - 2400 vs. Orcs & Goblins
Evolution of the Army List
Battle 16 - 19(2011/09/24) - 2500 vs. New Ogre Kingdoms
Battle 14 - 15(2011/09/15) - 2000 vs. Orcs & Goblins
Battle 13 (2011/07/14) - 2400 vs. Bretonnia
Battle 12 (2011/07/09) - 2400 vs. Orcs & Goblins
Army List by Seredain
Battle 11 (2011/04/10) - 2400 vs. Bretonnia
Battle 10 (2011/04/07) - 2400 vs. Empire
Battle 9 (2011/04/07) - Tournament - 2400 vs. Old Tomb Kings
Battle 8 (2011/04/06) - Tournament - 2400 vs. Beastmen
Battle 7 (2011/04/04) - Tournament - 2400 vs. Dark Elves
Battle 6 (2011/04/03) - Tournament - 2400 vs. Dark Elves
Battle 5 (2011/03/29) - 2400 vs. Bretonnia
Battle 1 - 4 (2011/03/22) - 2400 vs. Vampire Counts
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Greetings!
As I have mentioned in my battle reports I want to refine the army list I have used so far. Here is the first draft:
Prince - Dragon Armour, Shield, Barded Steed, Giant Blade, Helm of Fortune - 271
It is the same Prince as always but without his Talismans. I needed to cut his cost to include the Robe for Archmage. I would love to include The Other Trickster's Shard as I think it is more versatile item. But then I cannot have the Robe as for 2400 points I can spend 600 on Lord choices, so it is either Shard for the Prince and Guardian Phoenix for Archmage, or no Shard but Robe.
Archmage - Dispel Scroll, Folariath's Robe - 325
I hated when I lost my mage to a lucky shot or in close combat where he should not be in the first place. The Robe would make him immune to mundane attacks and maybe even let him save his unit by challenging some hero without magical weapon. I am tempted to give him Talisman of Saphery too. The lore is to be decided but I want him to protect my troops. I am thinking about the following:
Life - I haven't used that lore to the fullest potential yet. If I decide to do so I will always take a default spell to give regeneration to Archmage and his unit (Spearelves or Swordmasters). The best choice for other spells would be Flesh to Stone, Throne and Regrowth. I need him to keep my units alive, I am confident I can cut through hordes with my troops so Dwellers is not that necessary.
Light - there are some nice protective spells, some nice magic missiles and increasing WS and I can sometimes help to keep ASF granting its full effect. When I played against DE in particular, the fact they could lower initiative with Shadow meant I had no re-rolls and that is a big loss. Timewarp can be very useful too (16"+2D6 charge range anyone?, not to mention additional attacks)
High Magic - very versatile and easy to cast, so even when winds of magic blow low there is still a decent chance to cast some nice spells. Curse of Arrow Attraction can turn my shooters into real killers (and many times I rolled below average on my volleys), especially helping to re-roll that single bolt hits. Flame of the Phoenix are good against horde formations and even better with new rules for Remains in Play spell. While Vauls Unmaking can help to get rid of that Strom Banner etc. Shield of Saphery and Drain Magic are other very good spells. Courage of Aeanarion are less useful with steadfast but can be still nice to have around, especially that it affects all friendly units in 12". Fury of Khaine is always good to have
Battle Standard Bearer - Armour of Caledor, Dawnstone, Great Weapon - 168
Quite typical build and I used it to a great effect before with his Spearelves. It takes away some power from Silver Helms and I am yet to find out if he is going to be missed in that unit. However, in Spearelves, with their ranks and his combat abilities he can be dangerous. What is more, having him closer to other units means I would have that handy re-roll when I need it. My last games showed how much I missed him sometimes when he was at a flank with the Knights.
30 Spearelves - Full Command, Standard of Discipline - 310
With BSB among them they have LD10 and the best chances to pass panic tests I can give them. Their steadfast is then the best they can have too. So they can hold against many foe. They are very good and stalwart unit but I felt they needed some boost to be used more aggressively hence BSB and new standard.
12 Archers - Light Armour, Musician - 149
12 Archers - Light Armour, Musician - 149
I need musicians more than standards (although they have their uses) and I like Archers a lot. I was considering taking two big blocks of Spearelves but my army still needs some shooting to get rid of weapon teams, fast units etc. If combined with Repeaters, they can also target bigger units and soften them properly. I strongly believe HE need some form of shooting no matter what army they field.
14 Swordmasters - 210
14 is the number of new models I have to paint without command groups And they happen to be very useful at that size. 12 or 14 is not much of a difference but it is always good to have a few more warriors around. They would be close support for my Spearelves, able to charge to the front with them if there is a need as both units work perfectly together. On the other hand there is still an option to run 12 with Bladelord and magic item. Any suggestions?
5 Dragon Princes - Banner of Eternal Flame - 180
I must admit there is something magical about Dragon Riders, almost immune to fire but having flaming attacks I also wanted to give that banner to some unit and they seem to be the best candidate in the absence of White Lions.
9 Silver Helms - Musician - 215
The Knights. I am curious if they are going to perform well with the Prince only. I believe they would. I would like add High Helm and Standard though so maybe I will leave Swordmasters at 12 strong and upgrade Silver Helms instead. I was considering adding a Noble to that unit to replace BSB but decided against it as I wanted to include another cavalry in my list. It is still an option and I see some nice uses for a properly protected noble in that unit or alone, as situation dictates. Let me know what you think
5 Ellyrian Reavers - Spears and Bows - 105
I really like fast cavalry and I hope I can learn to use them properly this edition. I would like to use them as a distraction on my refused flank or try to draw some charges and eventually go past enemy lines. It can give me the opportunity to paint new models too although I have some nice ones from 5th edition, painted already. So I can put them to the test without fielding unpainted army
2 x Repeater - 200
Always useful although I need to learn how to protect them better. But I have never regretted taking them even against Empire when they were first target for cannons.
2 x Great Eagle - 100
As I mentioned before one Eagle is good, two are even better
So I spent 2382 points and have 18 to allocate somewhere. Standard for Silver Helms seems to be the first choice. I don't have chariot and White Lions anymore. I don't know how to use single chariot properly now so I decided to drop it. It was a difficult decision to let White Lions go, however. I really like that unit and I know they can be very dangerous. But I wanted to check some other options and wanted my army to be faster. So in the end I had to make room for other choices. I may still come back to them. My first thought was to just drop the chariot, add an eagle and spend 35 points elsewhere. The funny thing with tailoring the army list to my liking is that I would rather drop one archer unit and replace it with Ellyrian Reavers. Then I would have that nice opportunity to be more aggressive but retain some shooting which I find very useful. But I am not allowed to do so. I wish we have fast cavalry in Cores as DE Well, that is my first draft after some nice games with Seredain's list. Feel free to post any comments, suggestions etc.
Cheers!
In this topic I discuss army lists I use in my games. I started with cavalry prince army inspired by Seredain. However, after some time I switched to Multiple Small Units concept and I continue with it since then. Below you will have a list of all my battle reports and if you click any link it will direct you to the battle report from that particular game.
And yet there is another change. After the end of 8th edition I was very hopeful for 9th Age, fan based continuation of Warhammer Fantasy Battle. After initial enthusiasm, the more I played that game and the more I observed the direction the changes take place, the more I realized it is not what I hoped it could evolve to. Sadly, I will not continue with playing games and writing battle reports with that set. It is possible that I will come back to it once it is more stable and mature. But I remain very skeptical about it. I do hope the project will be successful for those who create it and those who like the direction it is heading.
That left me with Kings of War at the moment and fortunately I like the system. It is young in comparison but there are many things I like about it and I hope you will appreciate the reports from this game too.
Enjoy!
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Kings of War
The Valley of Kings 4
Battle 65 (2017/11/11) - 1200 vs Elves
Battle 64 (2017/11/08) - 1200 vs Night Stalkers
Battle 63 (2017/11/07) - 1200 vs Undead
Battle 62 (2017/11/04) - 1200 vs Forces of the Abyss
Battle 61 (2017/11/01) - 1200 vs Elves
Edge of the Abyss
Battle 60 (2017/09/27) - 2000 vs Empire of Dust
Battle 59 (2017/09/24) - 2000 vs Night Stalkers
Battle 58 (2017/09/15) -2000 vs Undead
Battle 57 (2017/09/12) - 2000 vs Orcs
Battle 56 (2017/09/10) - 2000 vs Twilight Kin
Valley of Kings 3.1
Battle 55 (2017/09/07) - 2000 vs Trident Realms
Battle 54 (2017/09/02) - 2000 vs Forces of Basilea
Battle 53 (2017/08/31) - 2000 vs Ogres
Battle 52 (2017/08/26) - 2000 vs Dwarfs
KoW Games
Battle 10 (2015/12/05) - 2000 vs Forces of Abyss
Battle 9 (2015/11/27) - 2000 vs Salamanders
Battle 8 (2015/11/18) - 2000 vs Forces of Abyss
Battle 7 (2015/11/12) - 2000 vs Forces of Abyss
Battle 6 (2015/11/05) - 2000 vs Basileans
Battle 5 (2015/11/02) - 2000 vs Orcs
Battle 4 (2015/10/25) - 2000 vs Basileans
Battle 3 (2015/10/23) - 2000 vs Orcs
Battle 2 (2015/09/20) - 2000 vs Empire of Dust
Battle 1 (2015/09/10) - 2000 vs Empire of Dust
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9th Age
Battle 167 (2015/10/09) - 2400 vs Reptilians
Battle 166 (2015/10/09) - 2400 vs Dark Elves
Battle 165 (2015/09/15) - 2400 vs Elves of Nature
Battle 164 (2015/09/15) - 2400 vs High Elves
Battle 163 (2015/09/02) - 2400 vs Wood Elves
8th Edition Continues
Battle 162 (2015/08/09) - 2400 vs High Elves
Battle 161 (2015/07/27) - 2500 vs Skaven
Battle 161 (2015/07/27) - 2500 vs Skaven
Battle 160 (2015/07/16) - 2400 vs Tomb Kings
Battle 159 (2015/06/27) - 2400 vs Beastmen
Battle 158 (2015/06/13) - 2400 vs Star Dragon
Battle 157 (2015/06/09) - 2700 vs Empire
Battle 156 (2015/05/25) - 2400 vs High Elves
CanCon 2015
Battle 155 (2015/03/28) - Battle 8 - 2400 vs Ogre Kingdoms
Battle 154 (2015/03/23) - Battle 7 - 2400 vs Beastmen
Battle 153 (2015/03/20) - Battle 6 - 2400 vs Lizardmen
Battle 152 (2015/03/13) - Battle 5 - 2400 vs Orcs & Goblins
Battle 151 (2015/03/06) - Battle 4 - 2400 vs Dark Elves
Battle 150 (2015/02/23) - Battle 3 - 2400 vs Warriors of Chaos
Battle 149 (2015/02/12) - Battle 2 - 2400 vs High Elves
Battle 148 (2015/02/02) - Battle 1 - 2400 vs High Elves
MiniMe 2014
Battle 147 (2014/12/31) - Battle 5 - 2400 vs Vampire Counts
Battle 146 (2014/12/27) - Battle 4 - 2400 vs Bretonnia
Battle 145 (2014/12/24) - Battle 3 - 2400 vs High Elves
Battle 144 (2014/12/17) - Battle 2 - 2400 vs Lizardmen
Battle 143 (2014/12/12) - Battle 1 - 2400 vs Vampire Counts
Yet another chapter!
Battle 142 (2014/10/09) - 2500 vs Empire
Battle 141 (2014/09/28) - 2400 vs Strigoi King
Battle 140 (2014/09/13) - 2400 vs Star Dragon
Battle 139 (2014/08/31) - 2500 vs Lizardmen
Battle 138 (2014/08/25) - 2400 vs Dwarves
Battle 137 (2014/08/20) - 2400 vs Ogre Kingdoms
Battle 136 (2014/08/02) - 2500 vs Empire
Battle 135 (2014/07/30) - 2400 vs High Elves
Battle 134 (2014/07/17) - 2500 vs Double Wyvern - a rematch
Battle 133 (2014/07/02) - 2500 vs Double Wyvern
ANUWTF 2014
Battle 132 (2014/06/07) - Battle 5 - 2400 vs Easterlings of Chaos
Battle 131 (2014/05/28) - Battle 4 - 2400 vs Monsters of Chaos
Battle 130 (2014/05/20) - Battle 3 - 2400 vs Warriors of Tzeentch
Battle 129 (2014/05/13) - Battle 2 - 2400 vs Beastmen
Battle 128 (2014/05/11) - Battle 1 - 2400 vs Dwarves
UB game
Battle 127 (2014/04/11) - 2400 vs Monsters of Chaos
CanCon 2014
Battle 126 (2014/03/25) - Game 8 - 2400 vs High Elves
Battle 125 (2014/03/20) - Game 7 - 2400 vs Dwarves
Battle 124 (2014/03/11) - Game 6 - 2400 vs Dwarves
Battle 123 (2014/03/02) - Game 5 - 2400 vs Lizardmen
Battle 122 (2014/02/22) - Game 4 - 2400 vs Empire
Battle 121 (2014/02/13) - Game 3 - 2400 vs Wood Elves
Battle 120 (2014/02/09) - Game 2 - 2400 vs Lizardmen
Battle 119 (2014/02/03) - Game 1 - 2400 vs Warriors of Chaos
Hammer of Dave 2
Battle 118 (2014/01/28) - Game 5 - 2400 vs Lizardmen
Battle 117 (2014/01/23) - Game 4 - 2400 vs Dwarves
Battle 116 (2014/01/21) - Game 3 - 2400 vs Bretonnia
Battle 115 (2014/01/17) - Game 2 - 2400 vs Daemons of Chaos
Battle 114 (2014/01/14) - Game 1 - 2400 vs Dark Elves
Friendly 2500
Battle 113 (2014/01/07) - 2500 vs. Empire
Australian Masters - 2013
Battle 112 (2013/12/31) - Battle 6 - 2400 vs. Empire
Battle 111 (2013/12/26) - Battle 5 - 2400 vs. Warriors of Chaos
Battle 110 (2013/12/18) - Battle 4 - 2400 Vampire Counts vs. Lizardmen
Battle 109 (2013/12/13) - Battle 3 - 2400 High Elves vs. Dwarves
Battle 108 (2013/12/09) - Battle 2 - 2400 vs. Vampire Counts
Battle 107 (2013/12/04) - Battle 1 - 2400 vs. High Elves
Castle Assault - 2013
Battle 106 (2013/11/25) - Battle 5 - 2400 vs. Lizardmen
Battle 105 (2013/11/10) - Battle 4 - 2400 vs. Warriors of Chaos
Battle 104 (2013/11/04) - Battle 3 - 2400 vs. High Elves
Battle 103 (2013/10/29) - Battle 2 - 2400 vs. Lizardmen
Battle 102 (2013/10/23) - Battle 1 - 2400 vs. Beastmen of Chaos
ConVic - 2013
Battle 101 (2013/08/03) - Battle 6 - 2400 vs. Daemons of Chaos
Battle 100 (2013/07/31) - Battle 5 - 2400 vs. Warriors of Chaos
Battle 99 (2013/07/24) - Battle 4 - 2400 vs. Ard Boyz
Battle 98 (2013/07/24) - Battle 3 - 2400 vs. Khorne Daemons
Battle 97 (2013/07/21) - Battle 2 - 2400 vs. Tzeentch Warriors
Battle 96 (2013/07/19) - Battle 1 - 2400 vs. Dark Elves
New Beginnings
Battle 95 (2013/06/30) - 2400 vs. Daemons of Chaos
Battle 94 (2013/06/26) - 2400 vs. Warriors of Chaos
Battle 93 (2013/06/20) - 2400 vs. Monsters of Chaos
Battle 92 (2013/06/17) - 2400 vs. Wood Elves
Battle 91 (2013/05/20) - 2400 vs. Vampire Counts
ANUWTF
Battle 90 (2013/05/12) - Battle 6 - 2500 vs. Dwarves
Battle 89 (2013/05/04) - Battle 5 - 2500 vs. Orcs & Goblins
Battle 88 (2013/04/28) - Battle 4 - 2500 vs. High Elves
Battle 87 (2013/04/23) - Battle 3 - 2500 vs. Warriors of Chaos
Battle 86 (2013/04/19) - Battle 2 - 2500 vs. Skaven
Battle 85 (2013/04/16) - Battle 1 - 2500 vs. High Elves
Heavy Metal - part 2
Battle 84 (2013/04/10) - 2500 vs. Monsters of Chaos
QNK Joust 9.0
Battle 83 (2013/04/02) - Battle 3 - 2400 vs. Beastmen
Battle 82 (2013/03/28) - Battle 2 - 2400 vs. Empire
Battle 81 (2013/03/25) - Battle 1 - 2400 vs. High Elves
Heavy Metal
Battle 80 (2013/02/28) - 3000 vs. Strigoi
CanCon 2013
Battle 79 (2013/02/28) - Battle 8 - 2400 vs. Empire
Battle 78 (2013/02/23) - Battle 7 - 2400 vs. Warriors of Chaos
Battle 77 (2013/02/20) - Battle 6 - 2400 vs. Dark Elves
Battle 76 (2013/02/17) - Battle 5 - 2400 vs. Chaos Dwarves
Battle 75 (2013/02/13) - Battle 4 - 2400 vs. Lizardmen
Battle 74 (2013/02/06) - Battle 3 - 2400 vs. Wood Elves
Battle 73 (2013/02/03) - Battle 2 - 2400 vs. Empire
Battle 72 (2013/01/28) - Battle 1 - 2400 vs. Dwarves
The Road to CanCon 2013
Battle 71 (2013/01/28) - 2400 vs. Dark Elves
Battle 70 (2013/01/22) - 2400 vs. Dark Elves
Battle 69 (2013/01/20) - 2400 vs. Empire
Battle 68 (2012/12/29) - 2400 vs. Lizardmen
Battle 67 (2012/12/29) - 2400 vs. Skaven
Battle 66 (2012/12/09) - 2400 vs. Skaven
The Hammer of Dave
Battle 65 (2012/11/24) - Battle 05 - 2400 vs. Bretonnia
Battle 63 (2012/11/17) - Battle 04 - 2400 vs. Vampire Counts
Battle 62 (2012/11/15) - Battle 03 - 2400 vs. Daemons
Battle 61 (2012/11/10) - Battle 02 - 2400 vs. Lizardmen
Battle 60 (2012/11/07) - Battle 01 - 2400 vs. Dark Elves
MSU HE - next generation
Battle 59 (2012/10/07) - 2500 vs. Dark Elves
Battle 58 (2012/10/07) - 2500 vs. High Elves
Battle 57 (2012/09/23) - 2500 vs. Vampire Counts
Battle 56 (2012/09/17) - 2500 vs. 2400 Bretonnia (ETC)
Battle 55 (2012/09/09) - 2500 vs. Dwarves
Battle 54 (2012/07/04) - 2500 vs. MSU Empire
Battle 53 (2012/07/01) - 2500 vs. Dwarves
Wintercon 2012
Battle 52 (2012/06/27) - Battle 08 - 2500 vs. High Elves
Battle 51 (2012/06/25) - Battle 07 - 2500 vs. Khorne Warriors
Battle 50 (2012/06/23) - Battle 06 - 2500 vs. Ogre Kingdoms
Battle 49 (2012/06/21) - Battle 05 - 2500 vs. Dwarves
Battle 48 (2012/06/19) - Battle 04 - 2500 vs. Empire
Battle 47 (2012/06/16) - Battle 03 - 2500 vs. Tomb Kings
Battle 46 (2012/06/14) - Battle 02 - 2500 vs. High Elves
Battle 45 (2012/06/12) - Battle 01 - 2500 vs. Bretonnia
MSU HE - the journey continues
Battle 44 (2012/05/18) - 2500 vs. Vampire Counts
Battle 43 (2012/05/06) - 2500 vs. Daemons of Chaos with Blood Thirster
Battle 42 (2012/04/21) - 2500 vs. Beasts of Chaos
Battle 41 (2012/04/14) - 2500 vs. All Goblins
Battle 40 (2012/03/24) - 2500 vs. MSU Daemons of Chaos
Battle 39 (2012/03/17) - 2500 vs. Beasts of Chaos
Battle 38 (2012/03/11) - 2500 vs. MSU Dwarves
Battle 37 (2012/02/29) - 2500 vs. MSU Dwarves
Battle 36 (2012/02/26) - 2500 vs. Daemons of Chaos
CanCon 2012
Battle 35 (2012/02/12) - 2400 vs. Tomb Kings - Battle 8
Battle 34 (2012/02/11) - 2400 vs. Skaven - Battle 7
Battle 33 (2012/02/07) - 2400 vs. Warriors of Chaos - Battle 6
Battle 32 (2012/02/05) - 2400 vs. Warriors of Chaos - Battle 5
Battle 31 (2012/02/03) - 2400 vs. Ogre Kingdoms - Battle 4
Battle 30 (2012/02/02) - 2400 vs. High Elves - Battle 3
Battle 29 (2012/02/01) - 2400 vs. Lizardmen - Battle 2
Battle 28 (2012/01/30) - 2400 vs. High Elves - Battle 1
CanCon 2012 Preparation
Battle 27 (2012/01/22) - 2400 vs. Skaven
Battle 26 (2012/01/07) - 2400 vs. Bretonnia
Battle 25 (2011/12/23) - 2400 vs. Skaven
Battle 24 (2011/12/17) - 2400 vs. Beastmen
Battle 23 (2011/12/10) - 2400 vs. Daemons of Chaos
Battle 22 (2011/11/27) - 2400 vs. Daemons of Chaos
Battle 21 (2011/11/19) - 2400 vs. Daemons of Chaos
Battle 20 (2011/11/12) - 2400 vs. Orcs & Goblins
Evolution of the Army List
Battle 16 - 19(2011/09/24) - 2500 vs. New Ogre Kingdoms
Battle 14 - 15(2011/09/15) - 2000 vs. Orcs & Goblins
Battle 13 (2011/07/14) - 2400 vs. Bretonnia
Battle 12 (2011/07/09) - 2400 vs. Orcs & Goblins
Army List by Seredain
Battle 11 (2011/04/10) - 2400 vs. Bretonnia
Battle 10 (2011/04/07) - 2400 vs. Empire
Battle 9 (2011/04/07) - Tournament - 2400 vs. Old Tomb Kings
Battle 8 (2011/04/06) - Tournament - 2400 vs. Beastmen
Battle 7 (2011/04/04) - Tournament - 2400 vs. Dark Elves
Battle 6 (2011/04/03) - Tournament - 2400 vs. Dark Elves
Battle 5 (2011/03/29) - 2400 vs. Bretonnia
Battle 1 - 4 (2011/03/22) - 2400 vs. Vampire Counts
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Greetings!
As I have mentioned in my battle reports I want to refine the army list I have used so far. Here is the first draft:
Prince - Dragon Armour, Shield, Barded Steed, Giant Blade, Helm of Fortune - 271
It is the same Prince as always but without his Talismans. I needed to cut his cost to include the Robe for Archmage. I would love to include The Other Trickster's Shard as I think it is more versatile item. But then I cannot have the Robe as for 2400 points I can spend 600 on Lord choices, so it is either Shard for the Prince and Guardian Phoenix for Archmage, or no Shard but Robe.
Archmage - Dispel Scroll, Folariath's Robe - 325
I hated when I lost my mage to a lucky shot or in close combat where he should not be in the first place. The Robe would make him immune to mundane attacks and maybe even let him save his unit by challenging some hero without magical weapon. I am tempted to give him Talisman of Saphery too. The lore is to be decided but I want him to protect my troops. I am thinking about the following:
Life - I haven't used that lore to the fullest potential yet. If I decide to do so I will always take a default spell to give regeneration to Archmage and his unit (Spearelves or Swordmasters). The best choice for other spells would be Flesh to Stone, Throne and Regrowth. I need him to keep my units alive, I am confident I can cut through hordes with my troops so Dwellers is not that necessary.
Light - there are some nice protective spells, some nice magic missiles and increasing WS and I can sometimes help to keep ASF granting its full effect. When I played against DE in particular, the fact they could lower initiative with Shadow meant I had no re-rolls and that is a big loss. Timewarp can be very useful too (16"+2D6 charge range anyone?, not to mention additional attacks)
High Magic - very versatile and easy to cast, so even when winds of magic blow low there is still a decent chance to cast some nice spells. Curse of Arrow Attraction can turn my shooters into real killers (and many times I rolled below average on my volleys), especially helping to re-roll that single bolt hits. Flame of the Phoenix are good against horde formations and even better with new rules for Remains in Play spell. While Vauls Unmaking can help to get rid of that Strom Banner etc. Shield of Saphery and Drain Magic are other very good spells. Courage of Aeanarion are less useful with steadfast but can be still nice to have around, especially that it affects all friendly units in 12". Fury of Khaine is always good to have
Battle Standard Bearer - Armour of Caledor, Dawnstone, Great Weapon - 168
Quite typical build and I used it to a great effect before with his Spearelves. It takes away some power from Silver Helms and I am yet to find out if he is going to be missed in that unit. However, in Spearelves, with their ranks and his combat abilities he can be dangerous. What is more, having him closer to other units means I would have that handy re-roll when I need it. My last games showed how much I missed him sometimes when he was at a flank with the Knights.
30 Spearelves - Full Command, Standard of Discipline - 310
With BSB among them they have LD10 and the best chances to pass panic tests I can give them. Their steadfast is then the best they can have too. So they can hold against many foe. They are very good and stalwart unit but I felt they needed some boost to be used more aggressively hence BSB and new standard.
12 Archers - Light Armour, Musician - 149
12 Archers - Light Armour, Musician - 149
I need musicians more than standards (although they have their uses) and I like Archers a lot. I was considering taking two big blocks of Spearelves but my army still needs some shooting to get rid of weapon teams, fast units etc. If combined with Repeaters, they can also target bigger units and soften them properly. I strongly believe HE need some form of shooting no matter what army they field.
14 Swordmasters - 210
14 is the number of new models I have to paint without command groups And they happen to be very useful at that size. 12 or 14 is not much of a difference but it is always good to have a few more warriors around. They would be close support for my Spearelves, able to charge to the front with them if there is a need as both units work perfectly together. On the other hand there is still an option to run 12 with Bladelord and magic item. Any suggestions?
5 Dragon Princes - Banner of Eternal Flame - 180
I must admit there is something magical about Dragon Riders, almost immune to fire but having flaming attacks I also wanted to give that banner to some unit and they seem to be the best candidate in the absence of White Lions.
9 Silver Helms - Musician - 215
The Knights. I am curious if they are going to perform well with the Prince only. I believe they would. I would like add High Helm and Standard though so maybe I will leave Swordmasters at 12 strong and upgrade Silver Helms instead. I was considering adding a Noble to that unit to replace BSB but decided against it as I wanted to include another cavalry in my list. It is still an option and I see some nice uses for a properly protected noble in that unit or alone, as situation dictates. Let me know what you think
5 Ellyrian Reavers - Spears and Bows - 105
I really like fast cavalry and I hope I can learn to use them properly this edition. I would like to use them as a distraction on my refused flank or try to draw some charges and eventually go past enemy lines. It can give me the opportunity to paint new models too although I have some nice ones from 5th edition, painted already. So I can put them to the test without fielding unpainted army
2 x Repeater - 200
Always useful although I need to learn how to protect them better. But I have never regretted taking them even against Empire when they were first target for cannons.
2 x Great Eagle - 100
As I mentioned before one Eagle is good, two are even better
So I spent 2382 points and have 18 to allocate somewhere. Standard for Silver Helms seems to be the first choice. I don't have chariot and White Lions anymore. I don't know how to use single chariot properly now so I decided to drop it. It was a difficult decision to let White Lions go, however. I really like that unit and I know they can be very dangerous. But I wanted to check some other options and wanted my army to be faster. So in the end I had to make room for other choices. I may still come back to them. My first thought was to just drop the chariot, add an eagle and spend 35 points elsewhere. The funny thing with tailoring the army list to my liking is that I would rather drop one archer unit and replace it with Ellyrian Reavers. Then I would have that nice opportunity to be more aggressive but retain some shooting which I find very useful. But I am not allowed to do so. I wish we have fast cavalry in Cores as DE Well, that is my first draft after some nice games with Seredain's list. Feel free to post any comments, suggestions etc.
Cheers!