Birona's Timewarp + Flying special rule

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Birona's Timewarp + Flying special rule

#1 Post by Loriel »

Hello!

I have always though that Birona's only doubles the movement characteristic to double (thus making our eagles, phoenixes run wildy on 4 movement inch ;) ), but the FAQ adjust the wordind to "Movement Allowance".

Does this mean that flying will get 40 inch march? and charge swiftride + 20?
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#2 Post by srpelicano »

If it says "movement allowance" then I would think you're spot on. That seems insane, but that's the wording.
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#3 Post by Ladril Caledor »

But only an appropriate amount more insane than a 36 inch march and 18 plus swiftstride for cavalry.
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well yeah, cavalry also. But the way we had played in my local gaming club it was that movement characteristic maximum is ten anyways ;) clearly this spell got tons of better.
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#5 Post by Iluvatar »

Not so sure about this, guys. There's a specific entry about this in the BRB FAQ - can't check or quote now, but you should find it easily.
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#6 Post by Loriel »

These are two references in FAQ http://www.blacklibrary.com/Downloads/P ... OKv1.9.pdf

Reference Section – The Lore of Light, Birona’s
Timewarp.
Change “[...]Movement[...]” to “[...]Movement
Allowance[...]”

Q: Does Birona’s Timewarp affect units with the Random
Movement or other movement special rules? (Reference)
A: Yes, however far they can normally move, it will be
doubled. For example, a unit with the Random Movement
(2D6) special rule rolls a 9. This would then be doubled to
18.
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#7 Post by Teledor »

That's Random Movement specifically. From what I understand, the BRB also caps all stats at 10 as a maximum. So on a unit of Reavers, their movement would effectively be increased by 1. Check page 3 of the BrB under characteristics of models.

Also, Birona's only doubles the "movement allowance" which on page three is "[o]ften called Move, this shows the number of inches a model can move under normal circumstances." Models with the Fly special rule can choose disregard their normal movement allowance and use a fly move instead.

If anything, Birona's would only double their movement allowance as defined as their normal move. So an Eagle would go from move 2" to 4" and a Star Dragon would go from 6" and cap at 10".
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#8 Post by pk-ng »

no max 10.
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But you are not increasing their movement stat but their movement allowance. If it had been stat I would agree with the max 10, but surely a flying models movement alowance on march is 20 thus it should be able to march 40 with bironas.
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#10 Post by pk-ng »

Nyeave wrote:But you are not increasing their movement stat but their movement allowance. If it had been stat I would agree with the max 10, but surely a flying models movement alowance on march is 20 thus it should be able to march 40 with bironas.
nope cap at 10.
they FAQ'ed it to move = movement allowance. It's a characteristic -> characteristic is max to 10
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