wood elf arrow upgrades

[sparkytrypod]

hi guys,

just wondering if all these or any of these upgrades for wood elf arrows are magical?

[Zenfrozt]

All shooting attacks made with enchanted arrows count as having been made with magic weapons according to my husband's army book, so yes I think they're magical.

[sparkytrypod]

sweet, well that's the BOTWD unit safe at least!!

[Zenfrozt]

My thoughts exactly

[Dalamar]

That's ok, as far as I know the waywatcher shots are not magical.

[Asurion Whitestar]

That's ok, as far as I know the waywatcher shots are not magical.

Das ist correct mine frund.

Apologies for the incorrect spelling, I'm just trying to get the accent across. :3

It's possibly also note worthy that although not specifically stated I believe the Hail of Doom Arrow would also count as an "Enchanted Arrow/s" for the purposes of the Bow of Loren.
As the "Enchanted Arrows" are stated as Enchanted items, therefore the actual enchanted item Hail of Doom Arrow would IMO be in the same basket.

[the shalafi]

ah, great. My BoTWD Dragon Princes are still save :p

[pk-ng]

That's ok, as far as I know the waywatcher shots are not magical.

Das ist correct mine frund.

Apologies for the incorrect spelling, I'm just trying to get the accent across. :3

It's possibly also note worthy that although not specifically stated I believe the Hail of Doom Arrow would also count as an "Enchanted Arrow/s" for the purposes of the Bow of Loren.
As the "Enchanted Arrows" are stated as Enchanted items, therefore the actual enchanted item Hail of Doom Arrow would IMO be in the same basket.

HoD is an magical item therefore gives magical attacks as per BRB FAQ

[Asurion Whitestar]

That's ok, as far as I know the waywatcher shots are not magical.

Das ist correct mine frund.

Apologies for the incorrect spelling, I'm just trying to get the accent across. :3

It's possibly also note worthy that although not specifically stated I believe the Hail of Doom Arrow would also count as an "Enchanted Arrow/s" for the purposes of the Bow of Loren.
As the "Enchanted Arrows" are stated as Enchanted items, therefore the actual enchanted item Hail of Doom Arrow would IMO be in the same basket.

HoD is an magical item therefore gives magical attacks as per BRB FAQ

Wha..??


I mean it for purposes of the Bow of Loren. Of course they're magical attacks, all of the upgrade arrows are as well.

[pk-ng]

Wha..??


I mean it for purposes of the Bow of Loren. Of course they're magical attacks, all of the upgrade arrows are as well.

ohh misintrepretted what you said.
But in regards to Bow of Loren and Hail of Doom you cannot use it in conjunction. HoD specifically states it can only be used with an Asrai longbow...a Bow of Loren isn't one but a "magical" item

[Domine Nox]

But in regards to Bow of Loren and Hail of Doom you cannot use it in conjunction. HoD specifically states it can only be used with an Asrai longbow...a Bow of Loren isn't one but a "magical" item

So you're just saying you can't use it for Hail of Doom Arrow +1, right? Because there is nothing to stop you from having both and using the HoD from your normal default Asrai Bow that everyone gets to take.

[Bashtrigger]

But in regards to Bow of Loren and Hail of Doom you cannot use it in conjunction. HoD specifically states it can only be used with an Asrai longbow...a Bow of Loren isn't one but a "magical" item

So you're just saying you can't use it for Hail of Doom Arrow +1, right? Because there is nothing to stop you from having both and using the HoD from your normal default Asrai Bow that everyone gets to take.

Exept that as far as I know, you cannot choose to use your standard weapon if you've got a magical one as well.

[Domine Nox]

But HoD is not an enchanted arrow.

HoD "The Hail of Doom arrow can be used instead of making a Shooting attack with the bearer's Asrai longbow"

Bow of Loren "The Bow of Loren is an Asrai Longbow.." And it only precludes enchanted arrows, which HoD is not. So they are not mutually exclusive.

[pk-ng]

But HoD is not an enchanted arrow.

HoD "The Hail of Doom arrow can be used instead of making a Shooting attack with the bearer's Asrai longbow"

Bow of Loren "The Bow of Loren is an Asrai Longbow.." And it only precludes enchanted arrows, which HoD is not. So they are not mutually exclusive.

But they are:
The HoD arrow can used instead of making a Shotting attack with the bearer's Asrai longbow

[Domine Nox]

But the Bow of Loren is an Asrai Bow. So instead of doing A+1 shots he does 3D6 shots...

[pk-ng]

Getting alot of stuff mixed up

You CAN you Bow of Loren with Hail of Doom but it's either A + 1 attack OR 3D6 S4.

[Domine Nox]

Getting alot of stuff mixed up

You CAN you Bow of Loren with Hail of Doom but it's either A + 1 attack OR 3D6 S4.

Yes, that was what I was saying. I'm glad we went back and forth to get to the same point.

[Asurion Whitestar]

It's possibly also note worthy that although not specifically stated I believe the Hail of Doom Arrow would also count as an "Enchanted Arrow/s" for the purposes of the Bow of Loren.
As the "Enchanted Arrows" are stated as Enchanted items, therefore the actual enchanted item Hail of Doom Arrow would IMO be in the same basket.

Getting alot of stuff mixed up

You CAN you Bow of Loren with Hail of Doom but it's either A + 1 attack OR 3D6 S4.

Yes, that was what I was saying. I'm glad we went back and forth to get to the same point.

I don't think you can, or you shouldn't... As I said earlier, but it doesn't matter much (seeing as you can't double up on rules), other than you wouldn't be allowed to actually shoot the HoDA as you can't shoot it with the BoL, and you'd have to use the BoL instead of you're normal Asrai Longbow, cause its magical (as Bashtrigger stated).

Enchanted Arrows are Enchanted items, HoDA is an Arrow and an Enchanted item, therefore it is an Enchanted Arrow.

[pk-ng]

It's possibly also note worthy that although not specifically stated I believe the Hail of Doom Arrow would also count as an "Enchanted Arrow/s" for the purposes of the Bow of Loren.
As the "Enchanted Arrows" are stated as Enchanted items, therefore the actual enchanted item Hail of Doom Arrow would IMO be in the same basket.

Getting alot of stuff mixed up

You CAN you Bow of Loren with Hail of Doom but it's either A + 1 attack OR 3D6 S4.

Yes, that was what I was saying. I'm glad we went back and forth to get to the same point.

I don't think you can, or you shouldn't... As I said earlier, but it doesn't matter much (seeing as you can't double up on rules), other than you wouldn't be allowed to actually shoot the HoDA as you can't shoot it with the BoL, and you'd have to use the BoL instead of you're normal Asrai Longbow, cause its magical (as Bashtrigger stated).

Enchanted Arrows are Enchanted items, HoDA is an Arrow and an Enchanted item, therefore it is an Enchanted Arrow.

Where does it say Enchanted Arrows are Enchanted items?

[Asurion Whitestar]

On page 37, where it describes how to use the Enchanted Arrows.

[Domine Nox]

But just because Enchanted Arrows are Enchanted Items, does not mean Enchanted Items are Enchanted Arrows. Permissive ruleset right? So if it doesn't say it's an Enchanted Arrow, it isn't one. HoD just requires an Asrai Longbow, and Bow of Loren counts as an Asrai Longbow.

[Asurion Whitestar]

But just because Enchanted Arrows are Enchanted Items, does not mean Enchanted Items are Enchanted Arrows. Permissive ruleset right? So if it doesn't say it's an Enchanted Arrow, it isn't one. HoD just requires an Asrai Longbow, and Bow of Loren counts as an Asrai Longbow.

Yeah, correct.
But still I wouldn't play it as such, but I wouldn't stop it either.
It's a very small point but I still believe that the HoDA is an enchanted arrow, well it is an Enchanted item that is an Arrow..

[SpellArcher]

On Asrai, most think you can take both funnily enough.



IMHO you need both to make a decent magical archer character and it's not OP. Either on it's own would make him pretty lacklustre. Have to say bubbling Savage Beast so a combat character becomes a death machine and the guy 24" behind him gets a cheeky three extra shots could be fun!