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2250pts 8th Ed HE List

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:22 pm
by th0r
I've been reading the book at the local GW for a bit now, and came up with this list. I usually run two blocks of spearmen and archers, but now that Sea Guard seem better I thought I would give them a try. I think it looks a little weak myself, but I have a game lined up early next week so I'm open to suggestions.

Noble (General) 157pts
-Elven Steed, Barding, Enchanted Shield, Dragon Armour, Axe of Sea Gold

Noble (Battle Standard Bearer) 159pts
-Elven Steed, Barding, Mask of the Merlord, Shield, Dragon Armour, Axe of Might

Chracian War Priest (Mage) 175pts
-Lvl 2, Dispel Scroll, Staff of Solidity

24x Chracian Lion Guard (Lothern Sea Guard) 347pts
-FC, Shields, Banner of the Eternal Flame (gives flaming attacks)

24x Chracian Lion Guard 337pts
-FC, Shields

18x White Lions 300pts
-FC

Lion Chariot of Chrace 140pts

Lion Chariot of Chrace 140pts

6x Lion Princes (Dragon Princes) 245pts
-FC, Banner of Ellyrion

Bolt Thrower 100pts

Bolt Thrower 100pts

Great Eagle 50pts


Total: 2250pts

Re: 2250pts 8th Ed HE List

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:47 am
by Larkspire
Don't you need to be on foot to use the Mask of the merlord?

Re: 2250pts 8th Ed HE List

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:12 am
by theviking
Yup, merlord is foot models only. I think the dragonhelm from the common items gives a +1 as well, I assume it can be taken in addition to the regular armor+shield. With the BSB becoming more important though I would rather have helm of fortune and a ward save than any weapons. Same with the general, I would take protection over offense as he will be getting attacked even if you kill all three models in base contact. Let your four ranks of spears do the killing and try to keep the important guys alive.

Also I would rather take seerstaff than solidity, I like to pick my spells. The prospect of IF (total energy?) without the consequences is tempting, but it only works once.

I think it looks like a pretty solid list, might try something similar myself, although I would likely take a tank prince as general for the Ld 10.

Re: 2250pts 8th Ed HE List

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:01 pm
by ekalb
I would like this army in 7th, not just 8th. Question though, are chariots still the same as they have always been? If so they will have a hard time going against any unit with a couple of ranks behind it. I guess it really doesn't matter as you have 2 and a nice unit of Dragon Princes to run along with them. Overall I think it would be a fun and not weak/over the top army to run with.

Re: 2250pts 8th Ed HE List

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:51 pm
by Nermal
You've got 2 arcane items on the mage. Dispel Scrolls can no longer be taken with other arcane items. Also, I'd rate phoenix guard over WLs. I don't believe you will be able to re-roll to hit when armed with a GW. As I read it it was pretty clear ... ASF and ASL cancel each other. I wouldn't listen to the nonsense people are grasping for that says they still get to re-roll to hit with HE GW armed troops ... wait for the errata.

Re: 2250pts 8th Ed HE List

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:37 pm
by th0r
I'll be playing versus Skaven on Wednesday.. and I am not liking my chances (he always massacres me under 7th). Anyway, messed a bit with my list. Not sure if it's worth giving the gem of hoeth to a noble, but it fits my white lion theme, and it's just a game to try out stuff anyway... Decided to go back to two units of 10 white lions to use as a flanker after something hits my sea guard. I was thinking it might be better dropping the 6th dragon prince, musician and champion for another 2 white lions in each unit, to keep a rank to cancel out ranks. I don't think having a champion and another guy in the dragon princes will really matter since they will be going after lighter stuff, but we shall see.

Noble (General) 157pts
-Elven Steed, Barding, Enchanted Shield, Dragon Armour, Sword of Sea Gold

Noble 159pts
-Elven Steed, Barding, Dragon Helm, Shield, Dragon Armour, Sword of Might, Battle Standard Bearer

Noble 144pts
-Radiant Gem of Hoeth, Dragon Armour, Great Weapon

24x Lothern Sea Guard 347pts
-FC, Shields, Banner of Eternal Flame

24x Lothern Guard 337pts
-FC, Shields

10x White Lions 162pts
-Champion

10x White Lions 162pts
-Champion

Lion Chariot of Chrace 140pts

Lion Chariot of Chrace 140pts

6x Dragon Princes 245pts
-FC, Banner of Ellyrion

Bolt Thrower 100pts

Bolt Thrower 100pts

Great Eagle 50pts


Total: 2243pts

Re: 2250pts 8th Ed HE List

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:45 am
by th0r
I played three games today, and despite losing them all they were a blast to play. Magic is crazy, combat is deadly and there is some combos out there that are pretty damn effective at taking down the bigger stuff that usually gives me trouble. It's pretty exciting trying out new lists and trying to figure out what works, and I can't wait for my next game (which will sadly be in 7 weeks lol).

I lost to skaven by meeting the breaking point in the top of turn 6 (his turn). I was doing pretty well though, just lost too many banners.

I lost to Empire due to random game length. I had the watch tower at t6, no one had it t7, and finally t8 he got it.

..and lastly I lost to DE because I rolled double one to flee with my WL + BSB + General when I needed 4+ inches.. ouch.

Anyway here is my new list.
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Arch Mage 320pts
-Lvl 4, Ring of Fury, Staff of Solidity

Noble 157pts
-Elven Steed, Barding, Enchanted Shield, Dragon Armour, Sword of Might, Battle Standard Bearer

25x Lothern Sea Guard 360pts
-FC, Shields, Banner of Eternal Flame

20x Spearmen 205pts
- FC

20x Spearmen 205pts
-FC

14x White Lions 228pts
-Champion, Musician

Lion Chariot of Chrace 140pts

Lion Chariot of Chrace 140pts

6x Dragon Princes 245pts
-FC, Banner of Ellyrion

Bolt Thrower 100pts

Bolt Thrower 100pts

Great Eagle 50pts


Total: 2250pts

Re: 2250pts 8th Ed HE List

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:15 am
by Lord Anathir
spears are good arent they? I've got 100 spears/lsg in my first list. To be honest with magic support they are as deadly as our elites but with the numbers to withstand some shooting.

How did your block of 18 lions do? I've got that unit in my list too.

and rbt?

Re: 2250pts 8th Ed HE List

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:50 am
by th0r
White Lions are crazy good. I had a unit of 10 punk a skaven plague priest and held up the unit for 2 turns. I had 10 hold on versus 20 greatswords and two detachments with my bsb and in the end only 2 white lions remained. They put a serious hurt on anything, but be mindful that they will get cut down from infantry, so it's best to send them at small, elite units.

My spear elves usually do nothing, but in one round from 20 attacks I killed 14 ratz. I didn't try any stat increase spells on these guys, but they could only get better, so I think they are pretty good.

Re: 2250pts 8th Ed HE List

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:45 am
by Lord Anathir
thats odd, spears are always my best units.