Troll King

[yellowcommissar]

I am playing a game soon with my High Elves and my friends newly painted Warriors of Chaos army. I suspect he may be using some sort of troll army around a troll special character. I don't have the WoC army book.

Has anyone any experience with him? What should I expect?

Thanks in advance for any replies.

[geoguswrek]

We can't give you rule specifics, but...

He is hard, really really hard. Forget about killing him in combat, take lots of fire magic, it is about all we have that can really hurt him, just use that and hope.

[Aethyr]

Being a troll with Regen, and the fact that he is ~200 odd points, throwing Caradryan at him might not be a bad idea, D3wounds and flaming and a explosion to boot.
That aside, I have never faced him and do not know his stat line, the safest bet would to follow Geoguswreks advice and purge him with flaming spells.

I would say bring Tyrion but for the points difference, It could be a little heavy handed.

[WarpPhoenix]

I think Cad would hit the dirt unless he gets lucky, Tyrion would clean him up for sure but not on the first turn, and he'd probably run because of the fear anyway. Magic is pretty much the best option, or flank his unit and run him down, either of those will work. Pit of shades would work a treat on him too because troll esk initiative. Because of certain chaos type regen you dont want to throw anything at him that isnt fire magic, so fireballs wounding on 5s is pretty much your best option, you'll be burning down his unit at the same time anyway so its all good.

[Aethyr]

Cad would most likely hit the dirt, but being a cheap option that could do some serious damage, he would be a good backup plan to take along in case the bastard makes it to your lines, at least you would have somthing to hurt him in close combat, not to mention he would be able to deal with other trolls too, but as said, magic would be the most ideal option.

Pit is one of my favorite spells.

[Allerion]

expect a monster hoard. He makes trolls core, so you can pretty much guarantee that hes also bringing a fair amount of trolls.

dont remember the rest of his rules, except hes a supped-up troll.

might not be a bad idea to bring Foe Bane. and a RBT or two. and SMs.

[Hoof&Mouth]

Fire magic as stated already, but be aware of troll vomiting. It ignores armor and auto hits at the str of a swordmaster. Any characters in Btb with a troll can die in a hurry.

[saintjon]

Talisman of Loec and a great weapon will put a nice enough dent in him to finish him off with regulars. DP's are a bad idea, he can multi-barf and chew up lots of armour in a hurry. Caradryan does seem like the money choice even though I never use him. if it's just a single game maybe bring a dragon mage. trolls are t4 so it's possible (although hard) to wound them with sun dragon halitosis, and I can't see (or haven't seen) in several games against Throgg armies there not being an absurd amount of trolls on the table, so a fire magic specialist will definitely find lots of work to do.

Throgg isn't easy to kill but it's worth it to do so, all those trolls will start acting real stupid after he goes down.

[dabber]

Throgg the Troll King is really underpriced, but he isn't that super powerful. Basically he's just a big troll that makes trolls core, and can boost the leadership of the troll-like stuff near him. Like a second general, but only for those units. Don't get Dragon Princes near Throgg, as he can vomit past their armour or has enough strength to negate most of it.

Like most of the WoC army, blow them away with magic or eat them with a Star Dragon.

[Keith]

Throgg isn't rediculous. He is fun. But he is pretty awesome in hand to hand.

I play a Throgg army. Something else to keep in mind is that throgg is a BSB to all monster units. And he is not stupid. So he might not be in a troll unit.

Eagles are your friend. He will likely have little to deal with them. Between march blocking and stupidity, you should be able to force him to seperate his lines, and troll unit left behind will not be passing stupidity on a 4. Also, fire magic good! shooting trolls with other stuff will just make them stronger!

[Citizen Militia]

I would only go with gire magic vs WoC if I KNEW for definite he was brining this character, youre going to want a couple of casters with metal due to all the heavily armoured units.

[geoguswrek]

first off, wouldn't you pick your spells after seeing what is in the opponent's list, you know? like normal?. secondly, a level 4 may as well take metal, since its got a 2d6 s4 flaming attack. level 2's may as well take fire since killing <1 knight isn't as good as fireballing throgg as a dice efficiency and pressure system. on the other hand, kill the wizards is always a good plan (ie take metal everywhere and use ROBI to snipe wizards)

[Flame of the Asuryan]

I would use metalarchmage with Seer and stuff and firemage with Ring of Fury and Silver Wand

[Keith]

If he is doing a throgg themed list I would imagine he has Dragon Ogres and Ogres, not knights.

Everything being said so far... Throgg is not an OTT character, and there are many valid strats to beat a monster list without taking special characters of your own. Most people playing throgg want to play a monster army and he allows that to happen. If throgg was really so good, he would be showing up and placing well at GTs. Which he is not.

A troll army is easy enough to beat strategicly on the table. You shouldn't need to min/max your list to fight it.

[saintjon]

Throgg the Troll King is really underpriced, but he isn't that super powerful. Basically he's just a big troll that makes trolls core, and can boost the leadership of the troll-like stuff near him. Like a second general, but only for those units. Don't get Dragon Princes near Throgg, as he can vomit past their armour (flame template) or has enough strength to negate most of it.

Like most of the WoC army, blow them away with magic or eat them with a Star Dragon.

It's in the dragon armour language that all breath weapon templates don't work on them, the d-whatever it is multiple vomit attacks he does in close combat aren't from a template though and will kill an aweful lot of dragon princes. If you can bait that template with dp's though that's a win for you since the template attack is a one-shot IIRC, just get them out of the way before he charges.

[dabber]

It's in the dragon armour language that all breath weapon templates don't work on them

Silly me, I double-thought my way into error. I first posted thinking of the D6 hits vomit attack, then edited my post to add the flame template reference, when DPs are immune to that. Throgg personally will kill an awful lot of elves, if he gets to attack.

[saintjon]

A nice phoenix guard unit could probably put it to him pretty hard, if he's on his own then there are other things but in a unit of warriors/trolls or whatever, if you can beat his unit and catch it that's probably the easiest way to kill him.

[Keith]

Also, Pit of shades. Trolls are Initiative 1. Throgg is Initiative 2.