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Elven castles

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:06 pm
by Luna Guardian
This is a subject that I've been thinking about recently, there aren't any real options available on the market for an elven castle or fortress for siege games. Since the latest rules expansion for Kings of War has siege rules that I really want to try out, I'd like to have one that looks elven. I've accepted the fact, that I will probably have to make one from scratch, but since I am not a designer, I'm not sure how to go about making one.

Has anyone built and/or designed your own elven fortress for this purpose? Maybe a display board with a citadel-flair? With Warhammer Total War we have a lot of reference pictures:
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There are some pictures of completed projects that I've found, but they don't quite look right to me:
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This is the closest to what I've been thinking, but it seems to be rather difficult to store anywhere: http://forum.oldhammer.org.uk/viewtopic ... 0&start=80

Does anyone have ideas?

Re: Elven castles

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:09 pm
by Olthannon
Years and years ago I had some elven watchtowers and small fortress walls but they've long since gone in the tip. Shame really because I was well into Art Attack and loving the pva at the time.
I think I used some artwork from the 5th edition rules and some art from lotr. Tall peaked designs with sloping arches, lovely domes etc. I made metallic bronze rooves as opposed to the usual blue.

Re: Elven castles

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:13 am
by Prince of Spires
There have been a few HE terrain posts here over the years. Though I can't find back most of them and from the others the pictures disappeared. I did find this link: http://forum.oldhammer.org.uk/viewtopic ... 0&start=80 for a HE castle.

I myself have been looking at Hirst Arts molds for terrain making. They offer a lot of very nice molds which lets you cast your own building blocks for terrain making. Some very generic stuff but also some more specific and detailed items. They've been getting some great reviews online. So they are definitely an option if you want to go down that route.

If you have access to a 3D printer, then I guess there's lots of options available for that. Though it might take some searching to get nice printable plans.

Rod

Re: Elven castles

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:18 pm
by Shannar, Sealord
So. I've decided to go the 3D printer route. I'm a civil engineer. I say that only because 3d modeling is right up my ally. IF I decide I want to spend more time on the computer for 3d modeling for fun, and not just work I think I'll be able to do some nice designs. We'll see though.

Re: Elven castles

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:39 pm
by Luna Guardian
Super excited to hear that, Shannar! Any chance you might share your designs? If so, might I make a few suggestions?
1) consider the printing time. It may be better to print several pieces to assemble rather than individual large pieces
2) If something doesn't NEED to be printed, it might be better to not. For example, for a section of wall the wall itself can be a solid block of foam, but the ramparts and "accoutrements" are far easier to print than carve (example, this tower)

Not wanting to tell you how to do your job, just trying to help :)

Re: Elven castles

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:06 pm
by Shannar, Sealord
The plan is to share.

And for sure the foam/3d combination is the most powerful. Even back when I was into Hirst arts I tried to match it with foam, simply to same time.

Re: Elven castles

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:56 am
by Luna Guardian
Shannar, Sealord wrote:The plan is to share.
You're a gentleman and a scholar =D>

Re: Elven castles

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:33 am
by Prince of Spires
Luna Guardian wrote:
Shannar, Sealord wrote:The plan is to share.
You're a gentleman and a scholar =D>
+1 to that :)

What are you Hirst arts experiences? Any models you can share?

Rod

Re: Elven castles

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:26 pm
by Shannar, Sealord
I very much have a love/hate relationship with Hirst Arts. The results can be fantastic, but you'll put a ton more time into it than you expect. My best advice would be to take 20 mins every day and do a casting with all your molds. This only works if you have a dedicated space so you don't have to clean everything up every time.

Re: Elven castles

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:28 am
by Luna Guardian
Shannar, Sealord wrote:The plan is to share.

And for sure the foam/3d combination is the most powerful. Even back when I was into Hirst arts I tried to match it with foam, simply to same time.
I don't mean to rush you, but I haven't been this excited about something since I was a kid waiting for Christmas, any updates?

Re: Elven castles

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:56 am
by Shannar, Sealord
Well, the printer has arrived, but I've nothad time to put it together yet.
As to any design work, I've only played around with very basic outlines of what I want it to look like. I'll want a lot more interesting details for sure.