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Author:  KlapHesten [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:23 am ]
Post subject:  1000 pts vs probably Empire

Noble Dragon Armor, Radiant Gem of Hoeth
Lance, Barded Elven Steed, Shield
18 Phoenix Guards, FC, War Banner
7 Sword Masters
7 Sword Masters
18 Spearmen, FC, Banner of Arcane Protection
Reapeting Bolt Thrower

Both PG and Spear is deployed 6*3. Im considering to lose the Gem for some more cc oriented gear... But the thought was to take lore of heaven and hopefully get 4+ ward vs shooting spell :) or go for High and take 5+ ward save spell.
Any thoughts ?

Author:  dabber [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 1000 pts vs probably Empire

KlapHesten wrote:
the thought was to take lore of heaven and hopefully get 4+ ward vs shooting spell :) or go for High and take 5+ ward save spell.
Your chance of getting the spell off is under 50%, since you roll 2 dice and he rolls 2 dice. Don't put thought into offensive magic, since you effectively don't have any. Gem is marginally worthwhile for the extra dispel dice, but that is all it is providing you here.


The spear block really really does not belong in a 1k game against Empire. 25 Empire swordsmen will tie an HE spear block - 18 attacks, 9 hits, 4.5 wounds, 2.2 kills, they have 4th rank and outnumber. Plus they will probably shoot some down on the way in. Archers to shoot back at Empire shooters are a much better idea, and cost significantly less.

There is ZERO reason to deploy PG 6 wide. The extra single attack is effectively worthless. Getting (and maintaining) another rank bonus is vastly more useful than one PG attacking.

No cavalry and no mobility against an army with some of the most prevalent shooting in the game is a huge mistake. He will have at least two turns (3 if he goes first) to pick apart your Swordmasters, and you have effectively no reply.

Author:  KlapHesten [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 1000 pts vs probably Empire

Then perhaps something like this ?

Noble, Shadow Armour, Great Sword
5 Shadow Warriors
5 Dragon Princes
20 Phoenix Guards, FC, War Banner
10 Archers
Reapeting Bolt Thrower
5 Ellyrian Reavers

The Noble sets up with SW as scouts

Author:  elothr_anar [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1000 pts vs probably Empire

the shadow warriors are not worthwhile in a 1000 point list as they have little to no armour take swordmasters and give the noble a barded horse and the star lance

Author:  elothr_anar [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 1000 pts vs probably Empire

give the dp a banner bearer and the banner of ellirion by sacraficing a guy and getting the noble in the squad with the star lance

drop the scouts in my experience they dont do anything and you eather will be picking up models or taking lots of saves on your noble

also take a great eagle for cannon hunting

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