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Author:  runner [ Sat May 15, 2010 9:39 pm ]
Post subject:  1500 point First Try

Hi,

I haven't played with my elves since the new army book came back, and I decided to field them once again.
So this is my first attempt with the new stuff. My old army list used to be quite aggressive, but was built around a lot of silver helms (and a few DPs).
Now I'm trying to build an aggressive army, but based on infantry for the moment.

Heroes

Noble
Radiant Gem of hoeth, heavy armor and shield
136
(goes with the PG)

Mage
Lvl 1, Annulian Crystal (or two scrolls?)
140
(goes with Spears)

As you can see I don't like spending too much on characters. I intend on choosing High Magic for both, using the 5+ ward and Drain Magic spells (support magic really). Would that work?

Core

14 Spears
SB, Musician
141

15 Spears
Sb, Musician
150
I could also put 2 units of 20.

Special

14 Sword Masters
Musician, Champion with ToL
238

I added the options because I had 30 points left. Any better ideas? A magic banner for the PGs or something.
14 Sword Masters
210

19 Pheonix GuardSB, musician
303

5 Shadow Warriors
80

Rare

Great Eagle
50

Great Eagle
50

Total: 1498

What do you think?

Author:  runner [ Sun May 16, 2010 9:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1500 point First Try

Here's another list, with more magic.

Heroes

Noble
Radiant Gem of hoeth, heavy armor and shield
136
(goes with the PG)

Mage
Lvl 2, Two Scrolls
175
(goes with Spears)


Core

19 Spears
SB, Musician
186

Special

14 Sword Masters
Champion with ToL, SB with banner of Ellyrion
259

14 Sword Masters
210

19 Pheonix GuardSB, musician, BoS
353

5 Shadow Warriors
80

Rare

Great Eagle
50

Great Eagle
50

Total: 1499

6-8 PD, 5 DP

Author:  Angel [ Sun May 16, 2010 9:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1500 point First Try

runner wrote:
Noble
Radiant Gem of hoeth, heavy armor and shield
136
(goes with the PG)
Drop the shield and upgrade his armour to dragon armour and give him a great weapon

Mage
Lvl 1, Annulian Crystal (or two scrolls?)
140
(goes with Spears)
2 scrolls over the crystal any day of the week

As you can see I don't like spending too much on characters. I intend on choosing High Magic for both, using the 5+ ward and Drain Magic spells (support magic really). Would that work?
Against some opponents, since you only have 4 PD and many armies have 4 DD + scroll at this level you might run into some trouble.

Core

14 Spears
SB, Musician
141

15 Spears
Sb, Musician
150
I could also put 2 units of 20.
Since you only need 1 core unit and our specials are much better than our core I'd suggest a single unit of 20 with full command and a Lion Standard.

Special

14 Sword Masters
Musician, Champion with ToL
238
Good setup I use almost the same one myself.

I added the options because I had 30 points left. Any better ideas? A magic banner for the PGs or something.
Not really, the talisman is very useful so I'd keep it if I were you
14 Sword Masters
210
Looks good to me, perhaps a bladelord in this unit as well.

19 Pheonix GuardSB, musician
303
I'd put a champion in here for the extra attack. He can also challenge to protect you noble. Give them the warbanner for that extra point of CR

5 Shadow Warriors
80
Works fine, some people don't like them but they can be useful.

Rare

Great Eagle
50

Great Eagle
50
Since you are lacking shooting and have the shadow warriors I'd drop one of these for a bolt thrower. But then you need to drop something for 27 points to stay within the limits. Perhaps 1 swordmaster, the swordamaster musician and the spearmen champion?

Total: 1498

Author:  runner [ Sun May 16, 2010 9:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1500 point First Try

Thanks for the advice.
In the second list, if I drop one eagle and all the upgrades in that first unit of Sword Masters i can add a bolt thrower.
But isn't it a bit risky to have a war machine unprotected (by archers..)?

Author:  CrazyCarl [ Mon May 17, 2010 12:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1500 point First Try

My experiences with magic at 1500 (and below for that matter) is that a scroll caddy will often be enough magic defense. Getting off Drain Magic against an army that you'd actually want to cast it against can be difficult even with two mages casting it, but I recommend being very cautious with the Radiant Gem noble packing a great weapon as he's super squishy if you aren't selective about the combats you get him into.

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