2250 balanced tourney?

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RemX
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2250 balanced tourney?

#1 Post by RemX »

Hello all.
Ran this list last night against Lizards and did pretty well. Was wondering what you all thought about it. Will this hold up in a comped tourney scene?

Archmage - lvl4, steed, silver wand, dispel scroll
Mage - lvl2, dispel scroll, seerstaff
Noble - BSB, AoC, Guardian Pheonix, GW (with spears)
Noble - Steed, SoM, HoF, DA, Sh (with DPs)

15 Spears - Standard
10 Archers

15 PG - Mus, Standard - Banner of Scorcery
15 SM - Bladelord w/ Talisman of Loec
5 DP
5 Reavers - bow, spears
Lion Chariot

2xRBT
Eagle

Exactly 2250, 9-11 PD

Thoughts?
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Re: 2250 balanced tourney?

#2 Post by SpellArcher »

On the whole it looks great!
RemX wrote:Noble - BSB, AoC, Guardian Pheonix, GW (with spears)
Noble - Steed, SoM, HoF, DA, Sh (with DPs)
I'd drop one of these guys for more troops or maybe tool up the Archmage.
RemX wrote:15 Spears - Standard
5 more bodies or Lion Standard I suggest.
RemX wrote:15 SM - Bladelord w/ Talisman of Loec
Standard of Balance or Gem of Courage maybe?

Shooting is only just enough I reckon. Most bases covered though.
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Re: 2250 balanced tourney?

#3 Post by RemX »

Thanks SpellArcher.

I could see dumping one of the nobles. The BSB didn't do much in the last game, but I won't make any decisions about him just yet.

What are your suggestions for tooling up the Archmage?

If I dump a noble, I could add another unit of archers to beef the shooting. I dunno.
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#4 Post by SpellArcher »

RemX wrote:What are your suggestions for tooling up the Archmage?
It's hard to see past Ring of Fury and a second scroll. A bit cookie-cutter but efficient.
RemX wrote:If I dump a noble, I could add another unit of archers to beef the shooting. I dunno.
I really think those infantry blocks could use extra psych protection.
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#5 Post by RemX »

Ok, made some of the suggested changes. Pulled the BSB and spears from Reavers and spread the points to increase the Spearmen and add more command and banner love. I still feel like I'm light on shooting. Was contemplating replacing the Reavers for archers or RBT. I'd like another eagle too. Just thinking.

Archmage - lvl4, steed, silver wand, ring of fury, dispel scroll
Mage - lvl2, dispel scroll, seerstaff
Noble - Steed, SoM, HoF, DA, Sh (with DPs)

20 Spears - FC, lion standard
10 Archers

15 PG - Mus, Standard - Banner of Scorcery
15 SM - FC, Standard of Balance, Talisman of Loec
5 DP
5 Reavers - bow
Lion Chariot

2xRBT
Eagle

Exactly 2250, 9-11 PD +bound

Thoughts?
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#6 Post by SpellArcher »

I think it's Ok.

I'd be putting Reaver Bow on the BSB but your guy is obviously useful. You could indeed drop the Reavers for an RBT, it's just a question of what you want to emphasise I reckon. You have three blocks and I guess you need stuff that 's going to help you make best use of them.
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Re: 2250 balanced tourney?

#7 Post by RemX »

I debated fitting in the Reaver Bow as well. It would add another shooty element, which I need.

I just don't see how you get a decent AS out of the BSB when he has the bow. Dragon Armor, Ench Shield and he's maxed his magic allotment for a 3+ AS. With a GW he's another 25 points I'd have to squeeze out. Am I missing something?
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#8 Post by RemX »

Was just reading Seredain's thread, where you go into detail about the BSB, Reaver and ToL. Good read.
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#9 Post by SpellArcher »

Thank you!

Picked that up from Seredain of course, he is full of good ideas.

I think it's a brilliant build for a BSB. Shoots, fights and re-rolls. What more can you ask? He fits really well into an Archmage build.
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#10 Post by RemX »

Oh yeah, it really is a good build. Used him last night in two games against Lizards. He challenged and killed the Saurus Scar-vet in both games.

So now I'm juggling three different builds here. The troops are essentially the same, and only the heroes are swapped around.

1. Archmage - Mage (lvl2) - Noble on Steed
2. Archmage - Mage (lvl2) - BSB Noble (w/ reaver)
3. Archmage - BSB Noble - Noble on Steed

The first was a take off on my original build and worked ok. The second was last night's build with the BSB Noble which trumped the first. Finally, I'm consider the third option, mainly because my Noble on Steed is the best painted fig in my army! Thinking about pumping up the Archmage with Jewel of Dusk, and dumping the Banner of Sorcery (should help comp scoring). It's a much lighter magic list, but I'll get some extra points back for more troops (or another eagle).
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