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panmarek
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1000 pts for Tourney - Noob trial

#1 Post by panmarek »

I have very limited experience (played dwarfs a little), but wish to try my sons HE as we have enough models for small format .. (Played HE 2 times only) So this is kindly asking for comments on my list. I shall also add, that there are composition restrictions (tryied to indicate in list)

Heroes:
Noble, DArmor, BHorse, SLance, Eshield [157]
Mage, Chariot [185]
Heroes count max 2 OK
Heroes subtot [342] < 350

Core:
10 Archers [110]
12 Lothern Seaguard [156]

Special:
5 Dragon Princes, Std: Warbanner, Mus [200]
5 Ellyrian Reavers, Mus [92]
Rare:
RBT [100]

TOTAL [1000]

Max Spec+Rare 3+0 or 2+1
Spec + Rare subtot [392] < 450

Max shots 22 < 30
Heavy Cav [200] < 350
Chariot 1 < 2
Warmachines 1 < 2
Power Dice 3 < 5


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#2 Post by Citizen Militia »

any additional rules which restrict Specials and Rares will totally ruin High elves chances. We are an elite army which is why we get twice the rare choices of any other army (and also it came from back when you could get 1-2 eagles/RBT for one slot) and we also get 2 more specials than anyone.

I would talk to the tourney organiser and see if those rules can't be changed at all for High elves to represent that they are an elite army. One additional slot for your choice of special or rare isn't going to make a huge amount of difference and is well within the fluff.

as the rules stand I don't know how I would go about it, I'm thinking maybe swordmasters since they can operate well in units of just 7. I would never plan an army without my dragon prince/battle banner unit so thats in there and then maybe a dragonmage on top, I'm throwing Ideas around here not actually calculating as I go or anything...

Your army list as it stands breaks the rules though since your RBT can make 6 shots giving a total of 28

I'll try and think up an alternative list which I would play in your position
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#3 Post by Bolt Thrower »

We also only require 1 core at this level so I would drop the reavers and archers to buy a unit of 5 dragon princes (150pts) and then beef up your seaguard with the balance of points.
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#4 Post by panmarek »

Citizen Militia wrote: Your army list as it stands breaks the rules though since your RBT can make 6 shots giving a total of 28
Thanks for support, just to clarify: cape on shooting is 30 (heroes and warmachines do not count towards this limit)
Changing composition rules is not forseen IMHO
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#5 Post by panmarek »

I am also not sure wheather including mage is necessary. He serves for magic defence mainly. Can´t I just replace him with Noble (GW, HA) to get more punch instead and be OK with 2 DD?
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#6 Post by White_Phoenix »

I would suggest to go with noble with Radient Gem of Hoeth, if that is allowed - it allows the noble to also perform as a 1st level mage, giving you the best of both worlds.
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#7 Post by orka »

Jack of all trades, master of none?
The hero would be quite vulnerable.
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#8 Post by panmarek »

Well, I just ended up with these variants. Is it better to have 15 Sea Guard or 10 Archers + 15 Spearmen?

SeaGuard List:

Noble: Gen, Chariot, GW, Armor of Caledor [203]
Noble: GW, HvA, Reaver Bow, Mask of the Merlord [147]

15 Lothern Seaguard: Sh, Std, Mus [210]

5 Dragon Princes: Std>War Banner [190]
10 Swordmasters [150]

RBT [100]

or

Spearmen+Archers List:

Noble: Gen, Chariot, GW, HvA, Sh [184]
Noble: GW, HvA, Sh, Reaver Bow, Mask of the Merlord [149]

15 Spearmen: Std [145]
10 Archers [110]

5 Dragon Princes: Std>War Banner [190]
8 Swordmasters [120]

RBT [100]

So, what would you choose? (Thanks for advice)
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